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Blog entry by povertyridge posted 03-02-2013 10:48 AM 3442 reads 1 time favorited 21 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Ok Ladies and gents….. This is my latest find. I picked this up from an old fella in Kentucky about a week and a half ago. Its a 2hp 220v, 12” model. For starters, it runs great, looks a little rough,(but beauty is only skin deep) is heavy metal and best part of all…. I can’t find ANY information on this machine with the exception of a 2 page description from the 40’s (i’m guessing) on Belsaw’s web site.

I gave them a call because I was hoping that maybe they still had some parts of some sort available or an actual manual available but they really seemed baffled when I called them asking about it. The issue: SNIPE. The problem is one of the 2 bed rollers has had a defective bearing on one end which had caused play and thus SNIPE towards the end of the cut. SO, like any one of us would do, I found new bearings and i went and got some cold roll steal and called up my buddy that has a metal lathe to assist me in making new rollers.

Does anyone out there have one out there have one of these machines or am I the only person on the planet with one??? I would like to pick a brain or two on some of the spring adjustments. The feed roller has a lot of pressure and the ridges indent softer wood. I would just release some tension but there are a couple other devices that seem to push the material and I don’t wanna hose myself too bad because it actually cuts well.

I took a little time to clean it up and go through the gears and get the 60 years of grease out. it run smooth and is about 80% quieter than ANY newer portable planer I have heard. I will post some pic’s of when I brought it home and some from after the cleaning.

All input is welcomed.

Of course I had to play with it a little bit when I got it home!

The BELSAW name plate is damaged, I would be interested if some one out there had one.

And after a little cleaning….

OK, after A LOT of cleaning…..

I haven’t done any work on the hood yet in hopes I can find a close color match.

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---



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Handtooler

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#1 posted 03-02-2013 11:00 AM

I own a newer (1987) cabinet model Foley-Belsaw 5HP w/saw attachment. Parts for it and the owners manual plus a complete list of moulder cutters are available on line and from the (Now Only) Belsaw company. In fact I just purchased a dust collection chute within the passed year. Mine is belt driven and chain thickness adjusted verses yours is gearadjusted. They do answer their phones still don’t they?

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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povertyridge

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#2 posted 03-02-2013 11:07 AM

Russ, Yes they answer and I had to wait till last Thursday to talk to “the guy who knows about the old stuff” but even he was at a loss for the 905 and said they have zero parts. Kinda frustrating. After some Googling I have found maybe 2 other 905’s on vintagemachinery.com but that’s it. The one’s that were posted were done so in 2004-2006 and I have been unsuccessful in contacting them. I am hoping someone here can help.

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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Planeman40

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#3 posted 03-02-2013 05:45 PM

I have a 12” Belsaw planer (sold by Sears under the “Craftsman” name) that I bought new in the mid 1970s and love it! It is a work horse and hasn’t given me an ounce of trouble since I’ve had it. The amazing thing is it has changed very little since the 1940s and anything on it can easily be replaced or made should it become broken. You have got yourself a good machine if you bring it back to specs. I am sure there are many of them still out there as they were popular. I know a number of us Lumberjocks have one. Do a search on the Lumberjocks site for “Belsaw”

Planeman

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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Handtooler

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#4 posted 03-02-2013 06:25 PM

+1 For Planeman! They are really the Cat’s Meow. Mine has done lots of work over the years. I currently plane super dry hard pecan without a whimper. What repairs or parts do you think you need? The setup jij for cutter adjustment is simple but good.

-- Russell Pitner Hixson, TN 37343 bassboy40@msn.com

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povertyridge

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#5 posted 03-02-2013 06:35 PM

Then I think I have done well. Thats great news! I’m having new bed rollers made this week and it’s going to need a new pully on the feed drive side. (The wooden one on the single pully side.) Otherwise I just wsnt to make sure its all set up ad it should be. I noticed some of the spring adjustmets are completly compresses… that can’t be right….

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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#6 posted 03-03-2013 01:35 AM

Here is some research to help you out.
http://lumberjocks.com/donwilwol/blog/series/5401

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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povertyridge

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#7 posted 03-04-2013 07:49 PM

Thank you to all! I have decided since I am making new bed rollers that I will rehab the whole thing. I have it completely tore apart and since I couldn’t fine a color even close to the original, lets just say I went a little non-traditional… Standby for new pic’s!

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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Grandpa

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#8 posted 03-04-2013 08:03 PM

I think Loren has one of these and is knowledgable. Try private mailing Loren.

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povertyridge

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#9 posted 03-05-2013 06:21 PM

Will do, thank you!

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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#10 posted 03-23-2013 12:17 PM

Apparently you are one of two on the planet that owns one of these!! Definitely an older one! I like the gears vs sprockets for drive unit, and the bed roller. They obviously dropped those features on the next model. I bought my Belsaw in 1980 and have put many board feet of lumber through it, and it’s still running strong. I did replace a couple sprockets and chain 2 or 3 years back, but that’s been it. Also got tired of turning that crank and mounted a DC drive to raise and lower table. Posted some pictures on LJ, although I couldn’t begin to tell you how to find them. Good luck with the planer.

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povertyridge

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#11 posted 03-23-2013 12:42 PM

Jkinoh, I would love to see how you modified your planer. I am still waiting to get my new bed rollers back from the machine shop so I can do final adjustments after the restoration. ( check out second blog to see progress.)

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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jkinoh

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#12 posted 03-24-2013 04:54 PM

povertyridge….here ya go.
I made a new hood, not wanting to cut a big hole in the original one. The hole is made to fit a standard 6”x14” duct transition from rectangle to 6” pipe. I have 6” dust collection in shop, so that worked out well. I originally bought the Belsaw dust collector impeller system which went out the back, but it wasn’t real effective. No dust or chips escape this! I made a adapter to fit the up/down adjustment and Lovejoy connector to DC motor. The speed is a crawl to fairly quick. Top toggle is on/off, bottom is up/down (labeling…another todo). The wood spacer was supposed to be temporary until I made a steel bracket to hold the motor, but with 2 bolts, it’s solid, and I had other things to do…like paint the hood, like I have yet to do. Also, included a little blade set that I made to fit a dial indicator. Made setting knives a lot faster, and accurate. I would probably make a new hood for your planer and do something similar. As you probably know, it doesn’t take much planing to bury yourself in dust and chips. Let me know if you have any questions, or would like any other views. Also, mine is a model 910.

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Don W

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#13 posted 03-24-2013 10:17 PM

jkinoh I like that hood better than mine. Some day I may need another re-do.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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povertyridge

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#14 posted 03-25-2013 11:43 PM

That is fantastic! Thank you so much for sharing!

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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#15 posted 03-25-2013 11:45 PM

jkinoh, do you have a plan for the blade setting gauge?

-- --- Chad Franklin, IN ---

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