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jointer revisited #1: old tool , old guy , new idea ! and safe .

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for years ( 45 ) i have been using the jointer , and from day 1 , my shop master ( Lincoln Morinaga ) said that this tool was the most dangerous in the shop . in my work , i often have to joint 12’ boards or longer .
with or without a helper , this is a tedious and risky task , as you have to force the board down with lots of pressure,
to counteract the forces of gravity and increasing outboard sagging .
my thoughts , have allways led me to using gravity in my favor , and letting my ” fingers do the walking ” !
first i want to thank you topamax , for answering my electrical questions about the switch and motor 220 v
without frying everything in the middle of the night . line =In = power from electric panel .load = out =from switch to motor . you were there bud , thank you .
so here is my solution :

this is my chopsaw table , the motor for jointer has been mounted on the wall,
on hinged board , for belt tightening

i wanted kent to come and do this , but didnt have any bubinga to work with !
this is the inside of motor cover box and base for jointer to mount to.
with vacumn tube to isolate jointer from motor .
the 2 holes are for take apart belt from motor to jointer .
thanks for looking , and work safe !
and 3 bolt mounting holes for jointer .

box and jointer mounted . this platform is 6” higher than chopsaw table .
i needed to have room under the jointer to still use the rail ,
and adjustable stops for chopsaw . when platform is removed .

these registry holes 3 in fence and 2 in table ,one set either side of
jointer table .

correspond with dowels in bottom of jointer platform .
i slide platform along back rail until 1/4” dowels register ,
and drop down into 3/4” holes in table .
this way platform doesn’t move , and it cant tilt ,
because back dowels are holding it down .

platform in place

far end of table and registry mode . i still wanted to use the chopsaw to cut up to 3 1/2” behind platform,
so it was different atachment .

underside of far platform and “hooks” and dowels .
here i slide platform until “hooks” drop in holes ,
and slide back until “hooks” are grabbing table and drop down
in corresponding dowel holes , it cant move or tilt either .

platform in place , with space to use chopsaw still .

platform with dowel pins to fill space in front of chopsaw .

and in place .

infeed side attachement detail .

infeed platform in place , with folding leg ,
over all it is 18” long ! and it all breaks down for wall storage !
just 1 old guy working alone !


i just made this , i will get a guard soon !

finished jointer and first edge !

as soon as i get back from denver and see bibb about rosewoods and his wood ,
i will get a spiral cutter head from grizzly for this and feel better about jointing long boards ,
i still have a delta DJ20 long bed jointer on the floor for regular edjeing and face jointing

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle



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Craftsman on the lake

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#1 posted 1850 days ago

This is a cool idea and really extends the use of the jointer for you. Those exposed spinning knives scare me though. Please be careful. You couldn’t still have the protection swivel plate on?

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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degoose

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#2 posted 1850 days ago

Really outside the box my man.

-- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ lazylarrywoodworks.com.au For lovers of all things timber...

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patron

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#3 posted 1850 days ago

can;t find the plate ,
will get one from grizzley soon ,
or make one ,
again gravity will help with that .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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PurpLev

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#4 posted 1850 days ago

thats a great idea for edge jointing!

But for face jointing this seems a bit risky as you have to put a TON of pressure against the jointer bed whereas in normal operating position gravity would help a bit. and those exposed spinning cutting metals also would freak me out too.

you should really talk to Kent about replacing this with Tiger Maple and Ebony though ;)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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James

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#5 posted 1850 days ago

good details and idea my friend, now you are having fun in the shop too

-- James, Bluffton, IN

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patron

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#6 posted 1850 days ago

thanks purp,
i got a 8” long bed jointer for face work !
this one is striktly for edging .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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PurpLev

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#7 posted 1850 days ago

that makes more sense patron… excellent idea…

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Don K.

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#8 posted 1850 days ago

Wow….when I first saw the picture I was like “What the heck..is he holding the camera sideways” Lol….man thats some “Creative” thinking for sure…but very nice !!!...but like already said, be careful with those blades until you get a guard.

-- Don S.E. OK

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Karson

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#9 posted 1850 days ago

Never thought of mounting a jointer on it’s side. I’ve got an old sears 6” guy. Thay could be used for that purpose.

A cool idea.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Woodwrecker

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#10 posted 1850 days ago

Outside the box is putting it mildly, but with the results you’ve displayed in your work, I’m with you Patron.
I’m glad I’ve subscribed to your blog. I’ve learned a lot already.
Mind those fingers my friend.

-- Having fun...Eric

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bowyer

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#11 posted 1850 days ago

All this time we thought you were just another pretty face!!!!!!!! Very smart work around for those long boards you plane.

Rick

-- If at first you don't succeed...Don't try skydiving

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patron

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#12 posted 1850 days ago

still got all 10 ,
and im almost as pretty as the guy in the mirror !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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a1Jim

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#13 posted 1850 days ago

Hey David
This set up would work really well in a weight less atmosphere did you steal this idea from NASA. LOL
This is one original Idea guy well done .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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spanky46

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#14 posted 1850 days ago

Your brain works different than the rest of us! That is meant as a complement Patron!
Nice job but get that guard on ASAP. Your students (we lumberjocks) can’t afford to have you MIA!

-- spanky46 -- Never enough clamps...Never enough tools...Never enough time.

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moshel

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#15 posted 1850 days ago

Thats a very clever idea! i wish i had a spare jointer :-)

seriously, my only near accident so far was with edge jointing big board (for my rustic outdoor table). luckily, my hand touched the part of the jointer arbor that had no knives. could have been much worse, just got a scratch. with this setup it would have been a much simpler procedure. you just can’t maneuver 30kg board on your own and stay safe. also, i bet you will get much cleaner edges, as the jointer fences are not that wide and the long heavy board wobble.

-- The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep...

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