SHOP ALONG #9: holiday odyssey - grading time

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Blog entry by patron posted 01-11-2014 02:31 AM 2805 reads 0 times favorited 31 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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since we were last here on the shop build the end wall was going up

things were moseying along pretty good
i even got the drop end peak done
with the cutouts for the overhang lookouts
and the scaffolding taken down – A+

so i made a ‘drawing board’ to start the trusses
with stop blocks and templates for all the web cuts -A+

and made one from it 30’ long

i had looked on the net for all the info i could find
and came across this picture of trusses of different types
for different length of spans
looking at this with my geometric eye
i noticed the roof rails were divided into 3
and the ceiling rail into 5
and as it could span up to 60’ (called a double fink)
mine at 30’ i deducted should be 2 times better ! lol
(i did get a bid of $2,500 for 19 trusses – ouch !)

so thats what i did
and devised a way to raise it all by my macho manly self – D-
struggling it up a ladder end after end
and hanging it by a rope there a foot at a time
got it all the way up to the top plate
when the wind spun it and now flat
it snapped in half – F-

well that did it for the roof then
when i got a call from a lady i had known briefly over the years
that had helped deliver my daughter

she was coming to new mexico to have some medical things done
and blah blah blah lets get together A+
she needed a ticket from hawaii
so off i go to daniels in colorado
and paneled his new sauna room
with aromatic red cedar
(bet you thought i’d never mention wood again)
it was T&G milled and had lots of wows in it
so i did it patchwork block by block – B+

i rushed home and got the ticket
(nothing ventured – nothing gained)
and worrying about the house being to cold
(buddy had torn out the insulation under the bathroom plumbing) – D-
went down and made the last skirt under the house
(cement framing paneling) just in time for my lady to arrive – A+

i expected her to need time to acclimate to the altitude and weather
but started noticing that all she was doing was laying in bed
and smoking medical m and watching tv – F-

well i now have the honor of being the biggest ….... on the planet – A+
what did it for me was that she wanted me to leave my home to her kids in my will (bye bye)

well back to colorado for some more work then
this time to make a silk bedroom from a sows ear – B-
a real beat up old mining house up there
worked over thru the years so it was still barely standing

got that done and came home to rest
in time for the new year
and final grading for last year
(overall i got an A- in determination)

so today i went out to the shop and fixed the broken truss
cutting off the gusset plate that was nailed and glued on
sanding and replacing them – B+

they were nailed with ring shank coated nails
so i used a diamond wheel to cut them flush first
so as not to tear the sanding paper)

making new plates for them i was getting all fired up with the fix
and got them nice and clean again
and nailed them down good this time
with lots of titebond II – A+

only to discover that the nailer had 16 d nails in the tip
in front of the 6 d ones i loaded it with
when it was nailed solid to the floor LOL – F+

after a good laugh i finished it and did the patron stress test on it
placing it on blocks each end and bouncing up and down on it
(only managed to measure 1/8” deflection overall in 30’)

not bad for an old man HA !

so tomorrow i will make more as i went and got 20 – 2×4x20

and wait for the block and tackle i ordered
on a 20’ pole i will place in the middle of the floor
braced to the spray booth walls
and my neighbor as the lift guy
me on my ladders getting the ends into their slots
to get them up to the top plate – A?

all in all i feel pretty good now again
a new year a new dream
(i celebrated new years with a gallon of chocolate ice cream
and a quart of prune juice – just some sips)
a new challenge – A+

thanks for dropping in
and have a great one yourself

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#1 posted 01-11-2014 02:56 AM

That’s quite an adventure you got going on there David…..lot’s of ups and downs…..sounds like you’re on the right path now… got the determination! That load of lumber on the car brings back some memories… grandpa and I used to make lumber runs like that…...

Carry on!

-- Jeff .... Minnesota, USA

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#2 posted 01-11-2014 03:02 AM

Lookin enormous! Getting closer and that’s good.

Hopin you good…


-- jack -- ...measure once, curse twice!

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#3 posted 01-11-2014 03:26 AM

Puttin up trusses in the wind works about as well as hanging big sheet iron in the wind! But looks like you got it fixed and have a new plan.

Then when you get that done you can come visit and figure out how we can put a lid over my sawmill for cheap!

Work safe and try to avoid the lady con artists in the future.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#4 posted 01-11-2014 03:33 AM

Hope the weather stays good so you can work. Step by step, you’re getting it. Good stuff, David

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#5 posted 01-11-2014 03:42 AM

thanks guys

hold my beer and watch this lol

supposed to snow sunday gary
guess i’ll plug away tomorrow
see what i can get done

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Joe Lyddon

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#6 posted 01-11-2014 05:12 AM

Looking GOOD!

In looking at the pictures of trusses and comparing to what you did, you used the bottom sample but only went 30’ instead of the 40’... and is the peak distance on yours lower than the sample? Is there enough pitch for the snow to slide off?

WOW! She was after some BIG rewards eh? Good for you with the “Bye Bye”... LOL

Cool way you’re putting the trusses up… sliding them into the preformed SLOTS!

Thank you for the update… Glad you’re getting some work to get more done!

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: ... My Small Gallery:"

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#7 posted 01-11-2014 05:42 AM

thanks joe

the pitch isn’t the problem
with the strength of the truss
i used this on the house too
after working on some that everything slides off of
including me
(remember i want the snow to stay put
till i can collect it in my water tanks)

i liked the more web bracing
so the rails don’t want to bow (wobble) as much
till i get some roofing on them

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#8 posted 01-11-2014 06:09 AM

Man you grade pretty hard David. Sounds like a fair good year though.
The shop is coming along well and once the trusses are up it will be easier ….. Sort of.
Keep plugging away and well keep cheering for you.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees.

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#9 posted 01-11-2014 06:27 AM

thanks paul
i appreciate that

and as mads likes to say
‘i hope someone gets something good from this’

like don’t nail your work to the floor lol

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#10 posted 01-11-2014 09:36 AM

Great work David. Us older guys can still get a lot done. it just takes a little longer, but what the heck, we have that extra time to use as we want. What you have accomplished with your shop is pretty amazing. I remember when you just had a frame outlining the floor to be. Quite a lot of progress since then! Just be careful on those ladders!

A 90 year old commercial fisherman here in Norway has been in the news the last few days. He was caught out on his fishing boat without a life vest on. He was fined, but he refused to pay the fine saying that he can’t work with a vest on. He was taken to court where he acted as his own attorney and lost the case (of course). He now has to pay court costs and an increased fine. The court said that the law was the same for everyone. It’s good to know that we no longer have to revert to using common sense and that individuals do not have to make any decisions regarding their own safety.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#11 posted 01-11-2014 11:47 AM

Great work, wish I could be there to help!

-- spanky46 -- Never enough clamps...Never enough tools...Never enough time.

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#12 posted 01-11-2014 11:49 AM

Lots of ups and downs David, but it is a New Day,
a “Fresh Page” to write Triumphs and Successes on…
You will Prevail!

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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#13 posted 01-11-2014 01:28 PM

David; life is such an adventure, but we live it and learn. I will pray your days go well and you stay strong.

-- Flaws are only in the eye of the artisan!

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#14 posted 01-11-2014 01:40 PM

Way to go!!!
Progress is looking good!!!

Who says being all “high & mighty” is a negative?
You will be reaching new heights with the trusses going up soon….
A mighty task for a soloist!!!
Go ahead, be all High & Mighty!!!

Just don’t go getting high (on medical M)....
However, be mighty careful on them ladders!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#15 posted 01-11-2014 01:42 PM

Thanks for bringing us along on the journey.

You forgot to give yourself an A+ for the (bye bye)

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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