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Blog entry by patron posted 07-31-2010 04:38 PM 1412 reads 4 times favorited 41 comments Add to Favorites Watch

howdy folks ,
got some inquiries about some cabinet work i do .
so here is a sampling of that .

first off , let me say i have NOTHING to do with them , i am just a satisfied customer ,

http://www.cabparts.com/

i have used their CNC precut and ready to assemble cabinets for 15 years now , and thought you might like to hear about them , and see what it is all about .

you do have to buy a catalog , mine cost $40 15 years ago , i don’t know what the deal is now , as they have ‘moved up’ and may have another way now , the catalog has drawings and specks for everything they make ,
and comes with a $20 coupon for your first order !

these boxes (in every size from 9” wide to 48”) , come in every configuration possible , from kitchen , vanity , storage , island , and desk , the standard materials are white melamine , almond , and birch grain , plain particle board , and mdf .
they will order , or you send them , any material you like , when i went to pick some up one trip , they had bamboo ply , that were being made for a job in the virgin islands .

you can specify dowel , or conformat screws assembly .

all the parts come flat pallet-ed , i specify a lift gate truck delivery (standard trucking delivery), as i don’t have a fork lift handy to get them off the trucks .
shipping cost is to the trucking company not to cabparts , but they do give you an estimate and delivery choices ,
and delivery date , (i have never waited longer than two weeks for delivery) !

the main thing i like about them , when i place an estimate order , they send me a sheet of door and drawer sizes for each box , and while they are making the boxes , i am making the doors and faces for the drawers ,
in any wood or stile i like , to meet the owners taste .

i am tired of cutting , line boring (with a jig by hand) , edge banding ,trimming , beveling , and cleaning up parts in my limited shop space , a complete kitchen and baths takes up my whole house and shop and deck to do .
with these , all i have to do is sort the parts (they all have peel off paper tags , with all the info on them ,
for easy identification for assembly .

so here is a quick look , maybe you might give them a try , it is very easy , and they are the nicest people to work with . they just came out with a PDF order form , that is a dream to use . just put in your boxes , and what ever
parts (drawers , shelves , color , banding , or any specks you like ) , get as much , or as little as you want ,
there are no order restrictions , or minimums .

so let’s see what it’s all about .
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this is the sides of any given cab , they have the dowel (or conformat) holes , line boring , ready .
i place them back edge together , and put my hinge plates and slides to them now , it is easy to do here , and not wait until the boxes are done , a simple job , as the prefered distances are in the specks sheet in the catalog .

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here i fill the dowel cups 1/2 way with white ‘school’ glue , (it is thin enough to saturate well ,
titebond is way to thick , and can ‘burst’ the material).
notice all tops and bottoms (and any cross pieces have dowels pre inserted) ,

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the sides and t&b panels have a dado for the back , so i run a line of glue here too .

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clamp , and move on to the next one !

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this is a corner cab , there are others for carosels and also for angled face access too .
for this one i just specify right or left blind panel ,i like the bases with a drewer in every one at the top ,
the also come without the drawer if you prefer .

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this is a ‘pantry’ box , i order as many roll-out ‘trays’ as i like .

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here is a detail of the ‘tray’ with the spacers they supply and the euro screws to go with them ,
they also supply all the shelf clips for any shelf you get too . color matched .

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so all i really have to do now , is make my own kick bases , and glue the backer ply to the backs of the cabs
top and bottom , the 1/4” backs are inset 1/2” from the back of the box , so these ply strips , (and even they have code stickers on them ) ! so when you mount then to the wall , you don’t rip through the back panel .
and atach my doors and drawer faces and any end panels if needed , add what ever counter the client wants ,
(or let a counter guy do it) , and whatever knobs and pulls the client likes .

AND WE ARE DONE !

if you are tired of all the lifting and shoving involeved with box construction ,
give them a peek ,
you won’t be sorry ,
and neither will your back !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle



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lew

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#1 posted 07-31-2010 04:40 PM

Great Source, David!

Thanks for the information!

Lew

Edit: I see they even have a free downloadable catalog

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#2 posted 07-31-2010 04:49 PM

thanks lew ,

with all the time i saved ,
i can go now and look at a dry rot job !

and maybe do some REAL work , LOL !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Todd A. Clippinger

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#3 posted 07-31-2010 05:06 PM

Thanks David. I had always wondered about using them and I never knew anybody that actually did. I appreciate your feedback and the pictures.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#4 posted 07-31-2010 05:13 PM

todd ,
if you are sick of sheet-goods ,
these folks are the best ,
everything is computer driven on disks ,
i have never had any part more than 1/32 out ,
and that was just one , in maybe 200 pieces !
just make room to sort the parts when you get them ,
they can get confusing if you don’t .
i get all the parts together before i do my glue .
some are tricky to assemble ,
a dry run will give you a sequence for them ,
like that corner box with drawer .

i did just find a supplier for the magnalox pre-cat you use ,
and am great full for your info on it .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Todd A. Clippinger

8775 posts in 2753 days


#5 posted 07-31-2010 05:16 PM

1/32 out is nothing.

Do you mean MagnaMax? I just picked up another gallon for the project in my shop.

It is waaaay more durable than the Sherwin products I was using. I love it.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com

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Scott Bryan

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#6 posted 07-31-2010 05:17 PM

Thanks for the info, David. This looks interesting and I can well understand the “challenge” that moving around full sized sheet goods present for those of us who qualify for “senior discounts”.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 07-31-2010 05:24 PM

thanks for the info David good photos and details. Those sheet goods are getting pretty heavy these days.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#8 posted 07-31-2010 05:24 PM

todd,
still drinking coffee here ,lol .
magnamax it is !

scott ,
you even get a discount from the stated price ,
and you don’t have to write all that into the form ,
just list the cabs , and any number of shelves , drawers , you want .
they fill in the blanks for you ,
and send you a confirmation , and a real mailed invoice for your and clients records !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#9 posted 07-31-2010 05:34 PM

jim ,

and we aren’t getting any stronger either ,
i think we are actually shrinking , LOL !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Cher

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#10 posted 07-31-2010 05:50 PM

David, that looks beautiful, the recipient must be overjoyed.

I hope we get to see the completed kitchen.

The easier the better.

Thanks for sharing David.

-- When you know better you do better.

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Scott Bryan

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#11 posted 07-31-2010 05:51 PM

David, I just looked at the site and the catalog is available for free if it is downloaded as a pdf fille.

I wish I had known about them earlier. I just finished remodeling a house for my mother-in-law and we replaced the kitchen base cabinets. I wanted to make them but, despite this being a 50:50 partnership (or so I thought), my wife outvoted me. We ended up buying some “economical” cabinets since she thought that I would take too long to get it done. I believe that her quote was that she would be “dead and in her grave” before I would get the cabinets finished. :)

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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Bob Kollman

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#12 posted 07-31-2010 06:01 PM

Usefull link Dave, always good to know this stuff. 2 years ago my aunt wanted me to build

her closet storage….No pre built boxes with fancy drawers…..just lots of shelves with little

compartments and dividers. Your endorsment means a lot to me.

-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#13 posted 07-31-2010 06:07 PM

cher ,
the wife this is for , is overjoyed !
on monday (her day off) ,
she will help glue the drawers together ,
as she said ,
” that is so easy , i could even do that ” !
well here’s the glue , and here’s the clamps lady ,
where are my cookies ?

scott ,
i did some Chinese boxes a client ordered ,
they needed assembly too .
the plywood was like spaghetti pre-finished .
the ‘toy’ corner brackets were the worst I’ve ever seen .
it took me 4 days and every clamp i had to get them together .
she wanted some crowns that they didn’t have ,
and wouldn’t give me any stain to match ,
as it was their ‘secret’ formula .
by the time i got them on the wall ,
she had spent three times what they were worth .
and i could have done everything for half that in half the time !
and we are talking 3/4” totally enclosed boxes ,
mouse and bug proof , cleanable for life ,
snap on/off adjustable doors !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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brunob

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#14 posted 07-31-2010 06:11 PM

I’m all for saving time and effort. Thanks for the info.

-- Bruce from Central New York...now, if you'll pardon me, I have some sawdust to make.

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patron

13034 posts in 1995 days


#15 posted 07-31-2010 06:22 PM

hi bob ,
even for my shop cabs ,
if i cant wait , i just get particle board ,
and make them from these specks ,
(and use deck screws) ,
they are so simple ,
and have so many different options .

bruce,
you won’t be disappointed ,
and now they even offer doors and dovetailed drawers if you like ,
(i suspect they are outsourced) ?

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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