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Blog entry by oscorner posted 04-28-2007 02:14 PM 1154 reads 0 times favorited 20 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I just wanted to thank Karson for the infomation he gave on the mortise chisel set deal. They arrived yesterday in a nice wooden box and look well made. Now all I have to do is figure out which deticated mortiser to buy. SuperShop has a mortising attachment for their drill press and I was thinking of getting it until a couple of Lumberjocks talked about the amount of force it took to drive the chisel into the mortised hole with one of these. Does anyone have any suggestions and can you tell me why you chose your particular mortiser? Thanks!

-- Jesus is Lord!



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Ethan Sincox

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#1 posted 04-28-2007 02:21 PM

(Patiently waiting on the sidelines for answers to Os’s question…)

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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#2 posted 04-28-2007 02:26 PM

Mark – I started out using the drill press mortising attachment. Broke the collar around the chuck because of the force required. I bought a Jet dedicated mortiser – based upon price (compared to the Delta). I also bought the 2” extension to extend the head 2” higher.

After using it for a couple of years I have no complaints. However, If I was to do over again, I would have spent the additional money and bought something like the powermatic with the X-Y-Z table. I have spent a lot of time over the years making fixtures to accomodate the positioning of he wood at different angles. Today I can afford it – When I bought the Jet, I couldn’t. Mike

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#3 posted 04-28-2007 02:31 PM

Mark – FYI - I made a dedicated stand (table) for the Jet dedicated mortiser. It allows me to cut mortises in wide boards, as well as flat boards (narrow) boards. If you are interested, I can take a few pics. Don’t know the process for posting them to our blog though. Mike

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#4 posted 04-28-2007 02:44 PM

I’ve never had any problems with not having enough force with my drill press, but maybe some drill presses don’t have much down pressure. Mine doesn’t seem to be much different than drilling a regular hole.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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oscorner

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#5 posted 04-28-2007 03:15 PM

FMOmbr, I would love to see photo’s. If you place them on : http://flickr.com all you have to do is right click on the photo, go to properties and copy the URL and paste it here between exclimation points. ( ! picture url !).

Thanks, Dick I remember seeing your setup and that’s what my SuperShop’s setup would be. I imagine the key would be to keep the chisel super sharp. Do you have and/or use the specialized sharpener made for mortising bits?

-- Jesus is Lord!

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#6 posted 04-28-2007 03:24 PM

Os; I also bought this mortiser. It was reviewed in a magazine and got a good review except that the depth stop will slide if you put too much pressure on it. It is true and I’m going to try and modify it so that it doesn’t do that.

The only real difference is that the chisels you and I bought are 5/8” shanks and this mortiser requires 3/4” shanks drills. They make a bushing 5/8 to 3/4 so I’m trying to find one of them.

The price in the review was $249 and you can see that it is now $159.00. They have a one price shipping east of the Mississippi and a few other states. It’s $40.00, the trucking shipping that they quoted me was $80.00.

It has the X-Y-Z positioning table, and that is why I bought it. I also have the Delta machine which I will probably be selling when I get the Yorkcraft model up and running.

By the way, when I bought the Yorkcraft I also bought some 3/4 shank chisels from Grizzly but the Hartsville versions look a lot better.

This has all happened in the last 2 days so I’ve not had much time to try anything except the 1/2” chisel that came with the Yorkcraft machine and it worked great.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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#7 posted 04-28-2007 03:32 PM

Oh, and by the way, I put a 1/2” chisel in some oak and it went in quite easy. That was with the Yorkcraft mortiser and the chisel that came with it.

I noticed that Glen Huey in one of his videos showed that when he did mortises he drilled a hole and then skipped over the next space and then drilled the next one. Stating that it kept even pressure on the mortise chisel. He then went back and cut the skipped over pieces.

Every time that I’ve done it, I’ve fought drilling the first hole and then cut about a 1/2 hole on each of the next ones so that it was easier. I’ve not tried Glen’s way yet. But I might with the new machine.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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oscorner

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#8 posted 04-28-2007 03:40 PM

Karson, I’ve seen that method of mortising on a couple of woodworking shows and it makes sense. Does anyone make a 5/8” mortiser or do you think these are designed more for the mortising attachment like, Dick has?

How is the depth stop made on the Yorkcraft that allows it to slip?

-- Jesus is Lord!

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Karson

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#9 posted 04-28-2007 03:48 PM

Yes the Delta and probably the Jet and others all use the 5/8” chisels That is probably the standard size. Except for production machines which need to make bigger holes. Grizzly sells up to a 1” chisel with the 3/4” shank. I bought a full set of Grizzly chisel’s up to the 3/4” chisel and time will tell if that size was a realistic purchase. I didn’t purchase the 1” version.

So probably all of the home style machines are 5/8 and the commercial versions are 3/4. It’s surprising that they don’t tell you in the advertising of the machines.

I’m going to look for a brass bushing like a motor bushing for the 5/8 to 3/4 reducer. The probably have them at Ace Hardware.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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oscorner

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#10 posted 04-28-2007 04:27 PM

I just finished reading a review of the Powermatic 701 benchtop mortiser and sounds like one sweet machine( about $399.99 w/ $50 off at Amazon). It comes with a chuck extender along with 5/8” and 3/4” bushings. I know that is more than double the Yorkcraft, but it has several great features. I don’t know if I can justify spending that much. I’ll have to make a lot of mortise and tenon joints to pay for this machine.

Let me know if the brass bushing works and if you find it at Ace Hardware.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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#11 posted 04-28-2007 04:31 PM

Woodcraft had the Jet Mortiser for $249, and I think there was a manufacture rebate as well. You might look as a comparison Os.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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#12 posted 04-28-2007 04:44 PM

Thank you, Bill, I’ll check it out. There’s a $25 mail-in rebate.

-- Jesus is Lord!

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#13 posted 04-28-2007 04:48 PM

I’ve never had to sharpen mine yet. They hold their edge well. Mine are razor sharp. I got poked yesterday, & it bled pretty good.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Bill

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#14 posted 04-28-2007 04:48 PM

I was thinking of getting one as well, but decided to pass it up and see if I can do quality mortises with my Leigh M&T jig. I still may buy it at a later time.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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#15 posted 05-02-2007 03:25 AM

Os: I got my chisels and I then made a bushing from a brass fitting that was used as a joiner for 1/2” copper tubing. The one I got was made from brass and it had thick walls. So I was able to make it work to allow me to put the 5/8” chisels in the Mortise machine that needed 3/4” chisels.

But, imagine my surprise. The 5/8” chisels are too short in the drill portion. It wouldn’t go to the chuck. I held the chisels side-bv-side and they are around an inch shorter than the 3/4” chisels.

So the story is you need to purchase 3/4” chisels for the Yorkcraft mortise machine. I bought mine from Grizzly.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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