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Blog entry by oledo posted 12-25-2012 08:15 PM 944 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I’m building a Cracker Barrel rocker however my lathe wasn’t long enough to turn the back legs in one piece. My idea was to turn two pieces and use a 3/4 dowel and glue the two together. If I had been smart enough I would have turned a tenon on one piece rather than have to drill two. When I got to the joining part I found my drill press had too much play to drill an accurate hole. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can join these two pieces short of overhauling the drill press?

-- Go Big Blue



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a1Jim

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#1 posted 12-25-2012 08:20 PM

How about half lapping it?

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#2 posted 12-25-2012 10:30 PM

I like the half lap idea also

-- Norman

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#3 posted 12-25-2012 11:32 PM

Can you remount the pieces in the lathe with a steady rest at the tailstock end and do your drilling on the lathe? This will ensure that the holes are perfectly centered and then you can use your dowel joining method.

-- Bob Anderton - Austin, TX - Nova 3000 lathe, Alaskan Mark III mill, Husqavarna Saw

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#4 posted 12-26-2012 12:35 AM

http://hardware.hardwarestore.com/28-453-table-hardware/table-leg-hanger-bolts-634093.aspx

http://www.mcfeelys.com/threaded-inserts

Shall I complicate this for you? Okay here goes, drill a hole and install a threaded
insert, then use a hanger bolt and twist them together.

Drilling in end grain is difficult, good luck.

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Don W

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#5 posted 12-26-2012 12:57 AM

Get a long bit or bit extension. Clamp the two together and drill through one piece into the other. Dowel it up. If its off its off equal in both pieces and should match up.

That’s if the half lap won’t work for you.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#6 posted 12-26-2012 01:02 AM

Since you haven’t doweled them and you can’t seem to get the mortise centered, I like Waho’s idea, but would just go with double wood screw thread, rather than using an insert. Just be sure to predrill (I know, that’s the problem). Anyway, try to predrill both pieces to the depth you need so it will go evenly into both pieces.

http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/DS-3124/516-x-2-12-Dowel-Dry-Lube-Screw

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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Don W

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#7 posted 12-26-2012 01:20 AM

My concern about the double screw would be lateral stress splitting the leg.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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DaleM

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#8 posted 12-26-2012 01:39 AM

Don, you may be right. I just looked up some pics of a Cracker Barrel rocker and it looks like when you lean back there will be quite a bit of stress on the back. I was just thinking of legs, not the back of the chair, but I guess they are one and the same. I used my shopmade drill guide, layed down horizontally on my bench, to drill into the end of spindles before when I was making curtain rods and closet rods, so if you wanted to make a drill guide you may be able to get it steady enough to mortise for dowels. I drilled these out with a regular drill. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/51416#

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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Don W

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#9 posted 12-26-2012 12:51 PM

I’m not sure how far off your drill press is, but you could also drill a hole slightly larger than the 3/4”, which would give you some wiggle room, then use a good epoxy to fill up the space and attach it. I’ve never tried it, but it should work .

Maybe we can get Dale to show us his shopmade drill guide. I’d like to see that either way.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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DaleM

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#10 posted 12-27-2012 01:16 AM

Don, I was just referring to my project I posted a few years ago. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/14619 I made it before I had a drill press. I had taken it off the bench and laid it down horizontally and used it to drill holes in the end of some spindles. I have a drill press now and made a jig for that to hold some spindles steady so I could mortise the ends. I wouldn’t say either way worked better or worse than the other way.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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Don W

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#11 posted 12-27-2012 01:21 AM

I got it now. I was thinking it was a jig for drilling threw a whole spindle. Or more like I was hoping.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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DaleM

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#12 posted 12-27-2012 01:33 AM

No Don, nothing special. I do wish I had a drill bit that long though.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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