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I think I am safe in saying I’ll keep my foot out of my mouth with this one. LOL
Looking HVLP spraying and not sure which way to go. I have a 5 hp air compressor and thought about buying a HVLP gun, or is the Earlex 5000 a better choice? I do not have any spray experiance except the old spray can. I want to be able to spray water, oli and schellac.

-- Bob, Rockford IL,



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pyromedic602

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#1 posted 2271 days ago

I also only have a 5 hp compressor. I purchased an hvlp to use with it and have had good luck. The only down fall is that if you are spraying a large project the compressor will run quite a bit. Have had no experience with the other system but have heard a lot of good comments on them. Either way I dont think you can go wrong. The secret with ether is just going to be practice, practice,practice. Good luck with your choice, and have fun spraying.

-- Pyromedic602, free wood is always good wood

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greener

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#2 posted 2271 days ago

Bob,
With a 5 hp compressor I would buy an HVLP gun. There are several that I’d recommend in the <$150 range. I have about 6 different guns as well as a pro setup turbine hvlp. I almost exclusively use a gravity feed (top cup) gun on most projects. Even on large kitchens. Cleaning the pressure pot and the long lengths of hose hardly offset the time savings on large projects. The two that I would recommend is the wagner (order and check out the web site from gleam paint), this is a bottom cup type, or the develbiss finishline 3. Other cheaper guns such as the astro pneumatic, porter cable, are also ok and about 1/2 of the cost. Save the money on the earlex and buy some finish to practice with.

I see your in Rockford, I’m close near woodstock and if you’d like to try out a few guns let me know and I can probably set you up or let you demo what I’ve got. I guess this was my first post here. I post more on woodnet, but this is a cool site as well.

Brian Green

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greener

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#3 posted 2271 days ago

Also,

I have some mdf shop cabinet doors that I made on my CNC that need to be sprayed white. I’m experimenting with some different materials (pigmented water based) and your more than welcome to try your hand at spraying them..lessons if you want….if they get messed up then we can sand and start again.

I don’t have a timetable so they can be done at any time. Let me know via pm or here online and we can set up a time if your interested.

Brian

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Taigert

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#4 posted 2270 days ago

My kid brother, is a Pro finisher. When I mentioned getting a HVLP, he told my to get a Graco. Just google Graco HVLP and you will find it. I still haven’t had a chance to get down to the distributer to get their pricing yet. But from what me brother told me of his exp. with other system and the Graco I’m sold. He’s been doing finishing for over thirty years, so I’m comfortable with his opinion. I had never even heard of Graco till our conversation.
I just wish he wasn’t a five hour drive away or I would just have him do all my finishing and not have to worry about it.

-- Taigert - Milan, IN

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oakdust

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#5 posted 2270 days ago

I found this for the Graco HVLP gun. http://store.spraymallstore.com/index.html
Gives the price but not much detail about it. Looks like I am leaning towards buying a spray gun
Thanks everyone

-- Bob, Rockford IL,

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greener

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#6 posted 2270 days ago

Ed,

Is your brother a cabinet finisher or a painter. Graco’s are airless sprayers and I don’t think that I’ve seen one for less that $500. The cats meow used to be the kremliin airmix system, this is an air assisted airless type of sprayer that’ll set you back a couple of grand.

If you have cash to burn, the the best HVLP guns are SATA’s. Thats what the majority of autobody shops use. However, for the woodworking hobbiest there are alot of choices and ranges of prices. Unless your spraying 2 part polyurethane or polyester high gloss on yacht interiors, you dont need a $500 spraygun to do a great job in woodfinishing.

Bob, sent you a PM, you’ll have to tell me about the soycandles sometime, my dad messes around alittle with that hobby.

Brian

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Taigert

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#7 posted 2270 days ago

Brian,
Back in the late 70’s my brother did his apprenticeship in Painting, in the mid 80’s he started into the finishing side of the trade. After that he has stuck with finishing fine woodwork. A lot of what he does is on site work, that has kind of ended up his specialty. He sprays a lot of Laquer’s of various types, as well different types of poly. And he has done some vary big dollar Yachts.
I just spoke with him after seeing your post. He explained that yes Graco does make Airless systems, as well as air assisted. And if your goal is to buy a low priced system, you don’t even want to look at Graco. He refers to it as the Rolls Royce vs a Chevy. His preference is the Graco, he said there is nothing wrong with SATA, but he’ll stick with his Graco HVLP setup. He said he likes the HVLP, because what ever he is spraying goes on the target with very little overspray, instead of ending up all over the place.
I’ve seen a lot of his work over the years and he does a hell of a nice job. Like I said before if he lived closer, and in the same country (he lives in Canada) he would be doing all my finishing. If I have anything that needs to be sprayed I sub it out, I’m just not set up for it right now working out of my garage. I already get hasseled over noise, the city would hang me if I was to be spraying. They have already checked me out to see if I am using a spray system in a “residential area”. One of my neighbors, complained that she smelt a “strong chemical odor” so I ended up with a fire inspection, along with the by-law/animal control officer reading me the city by-laws. They no longer believe it’s just a hobby any more. So I am going to be moving into a commercial space, and then I would like to set up a small spray booth, and start learning how to spray properly. He has offered to teach me the fine art of spraying, so I’ll take him up on it. I have a lot of faith in his opinion when it comes to finishing.

here is the link to what he sprays with:

http://www.graco.com/Internet/T_PDB.nsf/SearchView/HVLPProCart-ProCart+

-- Taigert - Milan, IN

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oakdust

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#8 posted 2269 days ago

I can relate to the complaint thing. First my neighbor complained because I put up a privcy fench. Needless to say the county said so? Then he complained because I was selling summer outdoor furniture in my yard. That I had to stop :-( So to heat my shop and not worry about open flame I added a small shed to the side of the garage and installed a gas furnace in it. So the inspector showed up again because someone called and said I had a woodburner in the garage. He left shaking his head. Tuesday the ispector was back because I hadn’t painted or sided the addition yet and check out my foundation. I built it on a slap so it dosent meet code if it’s attached to the garage without a foundation. So this weekend I have to remove the screw that hold it to the garage and add a back wall and I am back in code. I think I am going to knock on the neighbors door and see why he hates me so…LOL I can’t afford to go to a commercial space yet or I’d be gone.

-- Bob, Rockford IL,

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oakdust

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#9 posted 2268 days ago

Anyone have any experiance with these guns? Titan 19100 3 Piece HVLP Spray Gun Kit

http://www.amazon.com/Titan-19100-Piece-Needle-Nozzle/dp/B0002UNRJE

-- Bob, Rockford IL,

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