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Getting a tablesaw #1: At the begining

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Blog entry by nakamaruchi posted 12-17-2007 07:43 PM 1658 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I have Festool TS55 circular saw, because my shop is too small to place a tablesaw which will occpy almost all the space of my shop.
But these days, when I tried to make a small project, I found it very difficult to cut small pieces with Festool.

So I decided to buy a table saw.

Since there is no good table saw in Japan, I must buy one from the U.S.
But it is very hard for me to find a shop which can ship heavy items to Japan.

I am lost from the begininng.

-- Satoru Nakamaru, Japan ---It takes twenty years to make an overnight success. -- And if my English is strange or incorrect, please tell me.



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Damian Penney

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#1 posted 12-17-2007 08:14 PM

Cutting small pieces on a tablesaw can be hard too. Perhaps a SCMS (Sliding Compound Miter Saw) would be a better fit for your space. Also why couldn’t you use your bandsaw?

-- I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso

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MsDebbieP

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#2 posted 12-17-2007 08:15 PM

I just did an interview with General International (General Canada’s line of tools that are built overseas. Are they not available to you?
from information I’ve heard/read, the International Line is good quality.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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Dadoo

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#3 posted 12-17-2007 08:41 PM

Nakamaruchi, what kind of projects do you wish to create?

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

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Karson

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#4 posted 12-17-2007 09:13 PM

You might be able to find n European company or at least a company that is on the same land mass and not require and over-the-water delivery.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware soon moving to Virginia karsonwm@gmail.com †

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che

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#5 posted 12-17-2007 09:42 PM

Don’t forget the US is 110V 60Hz. and we use an antiquated unit of measure.

-- Che.

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Mike Lingenfelter

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#6 posted 12-17-2007 09:42 PM

I believe Grizzly ships internationally. They have some pretty nice table saws too.

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Mike Lingenfelter

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#7 posted 12-17-2007 09:56 PM

I just looked at your profile and you do have a small shop. Have you seen these Table/Miter Saws. If you are only doing small stuff this might be a good option. This one is from Makita, but there are other manufactures out too. They seem to be popular in Europe.

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MsDebbieP

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#8 posted 12-17-2007 09:59 PM

that reminded me of a comment made by Jim McEntee of Steel City Tool Works:

Interview Question: And what if you don’t happen to live in North America and you want to get your hands on a Steel City machine?
Mr. McEntee chuckled at this and said, “We’d find a way.”

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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gene

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#9 posted 12-17-2007 10:32 PM

Have you checked for a bench top table saw? Not to many out there to choose from. Something such as
http://www.amazon.com/JET-708315BTC-JBTS-10BT-3-Benchtop-Table/dp/B000CFH3A8/&tag=toolcribcom130-20
Should be small enough to save on shipping. Just an idea.
Good luck and I hope that this helps.

—Gene, Virginia

-- Gene, a Christian in Virginia

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Dan Lyke

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#10 posted 12-17-2007 10:54 PM

There are also a couple of comments over at the Festool Owner’s Group recently about people developing better techniques for small parts. There was a thread recently on building an auxiliary fence for the MFT, and I can imagine some reasonable ideas for clamps to hold small parts under the rail.

Like others, I’d suggest that rather than leaping directly for the tablesaw, maybe ask for a few suggestions on how to make some of those difficult cuts on the TS55 and the MFT, or look at how an SCMS would help you, or…?

Start with the goal and work backwards.

(Of course, maybe the goal really is “I want a tablesaw”, in which case I know there are a couple of companies that specialize in shipping aggregation, so you could get a crate with a saw in it stuffed in a shipping container somewhere…).

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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Ethan Sincox

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#11 posted 12-17-2007 10:58 PM

Another thing to keep in mind… Festool is coming out with a sliding compound miter saw (and a palm router) in the near future (2008?). If a SCMS sounds like it might work, you can still stick w/Festool.

Another thought… Festool has a fixture for making the planer a stationary tool. I wonder if there is some way of doing the same thing for the TS55?

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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Dan Lyke

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#12 posted 12-18-2007 04:17 AM

Yep, I believe that Festool has a device for turning the TS55 into a table-saw like device,except the blade slides. However, this is NAINA (Not Available In North America), so I’ve only heard it rumored and seen pictures.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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Ethan Sincox

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#13 posted 12-18-2007 06:28 AM

Well, as long as it is AIJ, then that would still work for Nakamaruchi!

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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nakamaruchi

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#14 posted 12-18-2007 04:28 PM

What a site !
Thank you guys, I am surprised at seeing such many masseges to me.

Damian, I use band saw only for resawing, because it can’t make precise dimension parts as far as I know.

MsDebbieP, I asked them a shipping quotation before, but perhaps they answered they couldn’t.

Dadoo; I want to make beautiful cabinets with many drawers so I think I must get a tablesaw.

-- Satoru Nakamaru, Japan ---It takes twenty years to make an overnight success. -- And if my English is strange or incorrect, please tell me.

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Ethan Sincox

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#15 posted 12-18-2007 11:06 PM

By the way, Satoru… here is a recent interaction I had with Festool:

My e-mail:
Festool Customer Service,

I know there is a bench unit for holding the HL 850 E planer in an inverted position. Is there also a unit for inverting the TS 55 or TS 75 in the MFT? If not, maybe that is something to consider for the future?

Regards,
Ethan Sincox

Festool’s response (within an hour):
Ethan,

We have something like that overseas, but it’s not yet approved for sale in the US.
Great idea, huh? Please be sure to let me know if there is anything else.

Mark Kalin
Tool and Application Expert

Festool USA
Tooltechnic Systems, LLC
140 Los Carneros Way
Goleta, CA 93117
Phone: (888) 337-8600 ext. 60503
Fax: (888) 550-6425
Email: mka@festoolusa.com
Webpage: www.festoolusa.com

You might want to check out the Festool website (if you go to Festool.com, then you can even find the website appropriate to Japan) and see if you can find the attachment for inverting your TS 55 and eliminating the need for a larger tablesaw.

Regards,

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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