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Virtual Dining Table Challenge #1: Announcement

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In order to continue challenging us to develop our creativity and woodworking skills let me present another challenge to you, with the support of Popular Woodworking.

Popular Woodworking

Google SketchUp is a powerful yet easy-to-learn 3D software tool that is currently being discussed in each woodworking forum or group. Yes, it can save you costs during the designing phase and it will boost the creativity of your finished pieces when you master it.

And what’s the best way to learn how to use that mysterious SketchUp tool everybody is talking about? How about taking our challenge? Encourage yourself to study the basics or even the more advanced features that will allow you to build the virtual Dining Table! Shaker or arts & crafts or some other style? Not a problem – it’s your table and your choice.

Note that your table must be based on a building, a bridge, or even a mountain range and as part of the challenge you must include a picture of your inspiration in your entry. Then, in your blog, describe how and why you used specific aspects in your table design.

Glen Huey, Senior Editor of PW says: “If your basis is the Washington Monument you can design the building shape as your table legs. Make the aprons with the design of the Golden Gate Bridge cable structure if you choose it as your inspiration. Or, add a carving to the legs that resembles the spiral staircase from the Vatican. Pull individual design ideas from your inspiration or “basis of design”. You can make the design of your table as unique as yourself.”

And in addition to learning a new tool, you can also win great prizes – how cool?

Prizes

  1. Four PW editors will judge the contest as well as provide a signed book or DVD as a prize for the top three entries – Bob Lang’s “The Complete Kitchen Cabinetmaker,” Megan Fitzpatrick’s “The Essential Pine Book,” Christopher Schwarz’s “Workbenches from Design & Theory to Construction & Use” (available late October 2007) and Glen Huey’s “Fine Furniture for a Lifetime.” That’s four valuable resources of woodworking information awarded to each of the top three entries.
  2. One random winner will get a SketchUp Pro license ($495 value)
  3. Three random winners will get cool LJ shirt

Prizes provided by PW editors

How to Enter and Official Rules

  1. Just add your entry as the regular blog entry (not as the project) and tag it with challenge03 (of course you may add any additional tags too):
    challenge03 tag
    Note that you don’t need to use ‘challenge03’ in the blog entry title.
  2. Describe your modeling process in the blog entry and add at least one screenshot of the finished dining table model created by you. Note that your table needs to be able to be built in the real world.
  3. Include a picture of your inspiration in your entry.
  4. The entry deadline is September 30th.
  5. Winners will be announced online at LumberJocks.com and PopularWoodworking.com on October 15th.

Resources

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka


32 comments so far

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Bob Babcock

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posted 668 days ago

I hope the tutorial doesn’t disqualify me….:)

As I mentioned in my PM to you Martin I think the focus of this challenge should be as a design study and not the production of a final design with all joinery, dimensions etc.. It will allow more members to participate and fits well with the idea of using a place or thing as inpiration.

One of the very valuable benefits to Sketchup is that it allows for easy design study. They can be done relatively quickly even with a minimum of Sketchup knowledge. If we focus on the design side of things it levels the playing field somewhat for all entrants.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Kaleo

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posted 668 days ago

One question that I have is do we have to use sketchup for this contest? Or can we produce this table in another 3D modeling program?

Thanks Martin

-- Kaleo , http://www.kalafinefurniture.com

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DAN

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posted 668 days ago

Think we need to stick with sketch-up.
My reasoning:

Unigraphics : I have over 5000 hrs of tube time
3d Studio : I have over 7000 hrs of tube time

Sketch-up = downloaded the software today and just walked thru the first 4 tutorials. Sort of levels the playing field, ....

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

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Napaman

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posted 668 days ago

i just played with it bit…did not try the tutorials…was fun…my question—-why limit to tables? could it be opened to “furniture”? either way it will be great——as long as the deadline includes a WEST COAST TIME after 5pm….lol….

-- Matt, Napa, CA...sanity...has arrived...JUNE-JULY-AUGUST...

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Kaleo

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posted 668 days ago

That’s why I asked the question about sketchup. I use Cinema 4D for computer renderings and Vectorworks CAD for designing. I would like to use those instead of Skecthup. I just don’t think you can get photo realistic renders of your designs from Sketchup. But if it has to be Sketchup I will use it for the competition. Thanks

-- Kaleo , http://www.kalafinefurniture.com

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Martin Sojka

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posted 668 days ago

Bob, tutorial doesn’t disqualify you ;)

Kaleo, only SketchUp should be used for this challenge.

Matt, this challenge is limited only to dining tables.

The reasons of having Dining table and SketchUp restrictions are:

  1. to level the playing field
  2. to make judging by PW editors possible

It’s impossible to judge objectively when you can use any 3D tool or design any kind of furniture. However together with these two restrictions/rules we’re saying that you’re allowed to base your dining table on anything you want. And this opens the doors for creativity.

Plus we want to have lots of other interesting challenges in the future and this approach will allow us to be as unique as possible each time ;)

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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MsDebbieP

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posted 668 days ago

my two cents—these challenges are about “challenging oneself” ... so if you are a whiz at Sketchup then we should be seeing some very creative designs or something that takes your woodworking skills to a new level… something.

the fun part will be the inclusion of a design element (or whatever) taken from the inspiration.

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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Aubster

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posted 668 days ago

Another thing is that Sketchup is free! I am one of thoses woodworks who recycle cans and bottles so I can afford better wood and hardware. I can draw, but I can design a 3D project in Sketchup less than half the time it take it take me on paper, and I have only used Sketchup for about 3 months. Plus, I still have to buy pencils and paper. Sketchup up is a great tool for a woodwork who is just starting out, so count me in.

-- A man who moves mountains starts one stone at a time.

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Kaleo

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posted 668 days ago

Martin-

Thanks for clearing that all up. It’s going to be interesting seeing what people come up with.

-- Kaleo , http://www.kalafinefurniture.com

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Bill

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posted 668 days ago

This will definitely be some challenge. Now we have to look for inspiration.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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MsDebbieP

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posted 668 days ago

and all in less than a month !!!

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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Bob Babcock

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posted 668 days ago

Some additional official Sketchup tutorials from previous versions that deal with more of the basics (mostly still applicable).
http://sketchup.google.com/vtutorials.html

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Aubster

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posted 667 days ago

Here is a Sketchup video tutorial I have been using to learn sketchup. It is all video and very good.

-- A man who moves mountains starts one stone at a time.

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 667 days ago

I can’t wait to sink my teeth into this challenge. I am a Sketchup addict! ......Hi, my name is Brad Nailer, and I’m addicted to Sketchup..

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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DAN

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posted 667 days ago

Got me cad 3d table going and bridge photo, having a riot !!

-- work from your heart and your spirit will live forever

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Martin Sojka

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posted 667 days ago

I’ve updated the announcement with the link to great Bob’s tutorial – dining table inspired by the Washington Monument.

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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Bob Babcock

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posted 667 days ago

LOL…I’ll assume the great Bob is a grammatical error Martin…..:)

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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Martin Sojka

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posted 667 days ago

haha.. anyways I like it this way – you’re great ;)

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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Martin Sojka

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posted 666 days ago

I’ve just updated the prize list with more details provided by Popular Woodworking.

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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Damian Penney

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posted 666 days ago

Can you enter more than one design?

-- I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso

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Martin Sojka

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posted 665 days ago

Damian,

there is no reason you could not post in a couple entries. They should be very different designs though.

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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scottb

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posted 664 days ago

Great Scott! a Great Bob too?!

This should be a fun one… the greener woodworkers can tackle more complex designs than we’d normally attempt, or might not seem feasible with our current shop tools available.

Looking forward to the inspirations and interpretations they inspire.

-- I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso -- http://blanchardcreative.etsy.com -- http://snbcreative.wordpress.com/

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 662 days ago

Would I be allowed to use a third party render application that lives inside Scetchup? I wanted to render a few of my images and use “Podium” to do it? Just wondering…

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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Martin Sojka

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posted 662 days ago

Brad, it’s fine to use Podium for rendering. And consider mentioning it in your entry plus posting some tips about it in separate blog entry – to share your experience with others ;)

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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dbriski

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posted 659 days ago

What are the judging critera? What things are the judges going to be looking for in?

-- David, www.briskibusiness.com

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titmas

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posted 658 days ago

Cool web site and cool challenge, this should be fun

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Thatto

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posted 652 days ago

Hello all.


is judging based purely on artistic merit? Will engineering be considered? Would the table have to stand in the real world?

-Thatto

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MsDebbieP

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posted 651 days ago

although I don’t have official answers, my guess is that the Magazine would want it to be build-able – so they can show their subscribers.

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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Martin Sojka

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posted 651 days ago

Here is the answer from Glen: “[the entry] needs to be able to be built ... To me the idea behind SketchUp is that it’s being used to not only design, but help to work out possible flaws that would normally appear during the first build out.”

I’m adding to the rules.

-- Martin, http://lumberjocks.com | My Facebook: http://profile.to/msojka

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MsDebbieP

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posted 646 days ago

3 days left (4 if you include today!)

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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furnitologist

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posted 641 days ago

I guess this is the place to post this….....

I just went through all the drawering and am quite impressed. You all dug pretty deep and that’s pretty COOL!!!! I really enjoyed observing the thoughts.

I wonder if Giz’s table will attack the Sketcher in chapter3???

Neil

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DocK16

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posted 641 days ago

FYI Check the new issue (#197 Nov/Dec) of Fine Woodworking Magazine for article one sketchup. Also a blog on Fine WW website.

-- DocK, WV

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