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Jointer fence upgrade for cheap combo machine (Woodstar jointer / thicknesser).

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Blog entry by mafe posted 03-31-2015 05:28 PM 4106 reads 2 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Jointer fence upgrade for cheap combo machine.
Woodstar, Sheppach, Güde, Jet, Ryobi, Titan, Powerplus, Tendotools, Stacionarno.

I have had this Woodstar combo machine some years now, it works fine, that’s about what I can say.
Since I bought a lunch box thicknesser, I use now only the Woodstar for jointing and that made me tired of the flimsy fence…
Really tired, since it is almost impossible to get a piece of wood square with that fence or at least luck and the Gods will agree… But I have managed…
Now it was time to take control.


Here we have it, the Woodstar pt 85.
Simply love they have the nerves to call it star, they must have balls the size of Mars.
But it works and it’s cheap, really cheap, I paid app 260 USD or 175 GBP for it.
Some of the newer models have improved the fence, but it’s still attached with a sheet steel mount, what I find really stupid, also it cant be moved across the surface so that you can use the blade evenly, in this way you will wear out the blade near the fence too fast.


Here we have the jointer stripped for the original fence.
I would have loved to be able to put the new fence on the base, but there are simply too many screws, so I had to go for second best, to attach it to the tables.
(This is not just good… I’ll get back to that).


Some aluminium profiles will be how the fence will be attached.
Here predrilling some holes for mounting.


The end of the tables are not 90, so some thick double sided tape, this will even out and hold in place under the mount.


Making sure I’m just shy of the table.
The reason the end profiles are longer than the table are that I want to be able to set the fence to the start of the blade and even be off the table if needed.


Drilling for the mount bolts.


Bolts and nuts.


Here we are!


In the other end there are an adjustment knob for the in feed table, this need to be cut off and extended so the aluminium profile can be mounted.


Then I took a rest from the mounting and made a plywood fence, forgot to take pictures, you can see the shape in the later photos.


Found out a hex bit holder fitted fine on the knob bolt, that’s quick and easy.


As you can see I made a rabbet in the aluminium profile so the extender could get through.
Then the profile could be mounted just as the other one.


Here you see the idea.


Aluminium profile running from end to end and the fence can be screwed on to this.
Remember to make a little rabbet where the knifes are.
The fence can be moved in full width of the table and so the knifes can get a even use.


Here from the front, nice tall fence.
The fence got it’s shape due to the fact I wanted easy access to the fence adjustment bolts.


And yep it’s dead square. ;-)


Added a tape measure, just to see easy where on the table I am in each end.


Tape measure…


Epoxy time.


Turned a wee knob, better than yellow plastic I think.
Put a piece of hex rod in it with some epoxy and also used epoxy to fasten the hex extender I put on the old knob rod.


MaFe style knob.


Turned two new handles at the same run, the lathe can make your head spin.


So here we have the trouble.
When you fasten the fence the in feed and out feed tables will be leveled at the ends, this is not desirable, we want them to be offset parallel.
So I use a handful of shims, these can be put under the in feed end and be adjusted due to the cut thickness.
Perhaps not super professional but it works and it’s easy.


You can see how it leaves a little distance under the in feed table.


Shim in place.

ORIGINAL FENCE UPGRADE:


While I was there now today, I decided to upgrade the original fence a wee bit also, this because the new fence are just for 90 degrees, where the old one can be used set at angle (I have never used that, but it might come in handy some fine day).
Adding aluminium profile to the back, to make it more rigid.
First drilling holes in the profile.


Then in the fence.


Countersink the holes.


Then it’s just to screw it together.


Here from the back.


And the front.


Now it can hang there on the wall and who knows, it might even become useful one fine day.

That’s it for the upgrading.

Here some links for setup and improvements on this type of machine.
Setup, review and simple fence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7UKx8ccpC0
http://www.idostuff.co.uk/sections/DIY/Woodstar%20Planer%20Thicknesser%20Review.html
Home made dust collector, blade change and setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAl3-L1-W5c
Using the machine to remove twist or curve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqLKLnTgw98&index=2&list=PLMJDusYkoPF3_DqiKUGNvnI1TPN66hplV
(Thanks).

Hope it can be to some inspiration or at least upgrade a cheap tool or two…

Best thoughts,

MaFe

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.



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Sodabowski

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#1 posted 03-31-2015 06:04 PM

I’m still wondering about the infeed/outfeed issue… I guess the only solution would be attaching your runners to the base, not the tables.

-- Thomas - Pondering the inclusion of woodworking into physics and chemistry classes...

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#2 posted 03-31-2015 08:07 PM

Hi Thomas, I put a straight edge at it is fine, but I agree if it should be done really good it should be at the base or even better at the out feed table only.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#3 posted 03-31-2015 11:12 PM

Architect and Mechanical Engineer! Well done!

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#4 posted 04-01-2015 12:00 AM

Laugh Lew, Gyro Gearloose… Smiles.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#5 posted 04-01-2015 06:17 AM

Mads! A moveable jointer fence, great idea! I had seen those combo machines in YouTube videos and thought they were cool. Now you tell me they are not. I’m disappointed. Oh well. You have improved it and that is what matters. :-)
Thanks for sharing.

-- God bless, Candy

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mafe

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#6 posted 04-01-2015 08:18 AM

Candy, they are cool enough. But go for the versions with the new improved fence, let me know if you go in the marked, then I’ll tell you what to look for. I think these little combo machines, compared to the price are really a good buy, this because the give you the chance to process lumber so you can do what ever you want. It is like going from running down the field with your arms out, to sitting in your own airplane, having drinks served as the plane fly.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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mafe

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#7 posted 04-01-2015 08:20 AM

So yes they are cool!
Compared to the prize they are crazy cool!
;-)
Read the reviews here on LJ: http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/product/1008
They cover the pro and con quite well.

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#8 posted 04-02-2015 01:37 AM

Nice Job Mads, its amazing what an engineer can do.

Have a blessed evening, Todd

-- Todd Swartwood (Todd Swart-Woodworks)

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#9 posted 04-02-2015 12:36 PM

Very cool and very precise. Good stuff Mads.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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mafe

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#10 posted 04-02-2015 02:03 PM

Laugh Tod, I’m an Architect, retired one even. Guess that only makes it better. A blessed day now to you.
Roger, it works! Smiles.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#11 posted 03-08-2016 02:49 PM

Hi Mads,

I noticed, that on your CMS/MFT table you have extensions attached. It seems to be attached with alu profiles, could you give me a bit of details on how you did that?
I tried sending you a message, but since I am new to this system I am not allowed to do so – so sorry for posting this on this blog post..

You are welcome to contact me directly.

Br
Rasmus

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mafe

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#12 posted 03-08-2016 06:22 PM

Hi Rasmus I will try and send a message.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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