i am PISSED!

Really if you do this again put a label on the workpiece and stock saying politely hands off.I had a similar experience in a machine shop in a club I went to I came across a milling machine with something already in the vice there was no note/label and I asked the instructor for that day what to do he said NO NOTE TAKE IT APART AND USE THE VICE I did this and there was almighty hell from one of the other instructors saying I had no right to touch another persons work (his unfortunately) anyway it was pointred out to him what the rules were no note or label attached no security. So in future maybe come to an agreement between every one if the memebrs that a project and materials are to be left alone then a label note should be sellotaped to the piece end of problem. A listair ps sorry about your loss I would have been annoyed too.

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

if i really thought it was him i’d make sure he saw next week before anyone else

i think it’s wrong when people think they can just attack other peoples work sorry for your loss but some people never listen to reason so only know one understanding

ps. i’d look for another shop to work in friend

andy

-- cut it saw it scrap it

What’s he working on right now?

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

Sorry my 2 cents theres no pint going down the revenge route this will only lead to small problems becoming big problems it could have just been a mistake whey not just take the stuff home with you if my previous suggestion doesn’t work.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

Sorry Alistair

i didnt mean to offend and i don’t condone violence but some people are just plan stupid this was a dispicable thing this igit did you don’t discard someone’s plans and timber without knowing what you are doing

andy aka pommy

-- cut it saw it scrap it

i am currently in an academic program for woodworking, we all have cubbies with our stuff in them, no one goes into anyone elses stuff. if your name is on a piece of wood then that wood is yours if not its fair game. ifyou had your stuff on your shelf and someone touched it you have every right to be pissed. its your wood your time and your skills being used. if you rent shop space you have as much right as the next guy to leave a project there until it is done. being the person i am i might just have a little face to face with this so called fellow woodworker.and in closing, hey its wood it grows on trees.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

Some people need a good old fashioned a#$ whoopin’. Maybe Uncle Fester could put this nitwit’s head in a vise! I’m pissed and it’s not even my project. All I can envision is somebody taking a set of spindles I made for a chair and tossing them in the garbage. The person would look like a pin cushion if I found the spindles! Sorry to hear that you have to be some jerks ignorance.

-- Fred.... Poconos, PA ---- Chairwright in the making ----

Frankly, I would not give them a third opportunity – I would be “out of there”, and let them know the reason why. I began my woodworking career in a one bedroom apartment – literally working on the dining room table with hand tools.

Look upon this experience as a “sign” – an opportunity to establish your own working space at home, no matter how small and humble these beginnings may be.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

Is he “just” an instructor or is he a boss? If he’s not the boss, then it’s time to go over his head, let them know it’s cost you extra time and money, not to mention aggravation. A REAL woodworker wouldn’t throw out a spec of wood unless it’s something that belongs to them, and it’s not of a size that’s useful for anything else. I suspect that it didn’t get thrown out though, it’s probably in someone else’s house or project.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

I agree it’s very frustrating and annoying I can’t disagree with this but perhaps he even did it deliberately we don’t know do we? anyway I agree and I would be equally annoyed too sorry about your time being wasted my friend Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

Do you know…...”no neck Frank” ???

Depending on my situation and how bad I need a place to work, I would tell them how I feel and start bring my projects home, or would find somewhere else to do the work. Maybe whoever you pay shop rent to could reimburse you with some free shop time to make up for it.

Just kidding earlier. First reaction. You have to have a face to face, tell him what you think of what he did , then move on. It’s all a learning process anyway. Good lesson. You might not lose something of more importance later. No violence,no revenge.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

After many many times of leaving things where I couldn’t keep an eye on them is a VERY BAD IDEA. My advice would be to take your stuff with you and keep an eye on it. Take it home, keep it in the trunk of your car, or in your truck. My 2 cents.

-- Only the Shadow knows....................

I’d double stick tape two separate metal plates to my box lid and attach a live 110v wire to it.

I’d be willing to bet he wouldn’t touch it again…. lol.

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

Let’s see… It was left out in an open shop and you are upset that someone took your stuff? Good grief!

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

i learned at a very young age that if you let someone step on you today they will step on you again tomorrow . if you let them step on you tomorrow they will step on you everyday thereafter . the bullies and badasses soon learned that win or lose , my milk money just wasnt worth what they had to go thru to get it !
so ill say you can do whatever you want with your milk money , im buying milk with mine !
looks like steve korz is a milk drinker ! lol

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-- Ciao, gth.

real nice tom i’m glad your not in my shop, i bet stuff walks off all the time around you.macpiper loses his stuff and you just had to grind it in.losser.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

When I lived in Chicago…I learned several things…never trust anybody and never leave anything in my car that I didn’t want to lose. It’s hard not to trust people…but it truly has to be the way it is in a big city…one always has to take things away from opportunistic others when one is using community property like a shop. I don’t trust people all the time where I live now…but it’s better…and even then I lock things up. The shop should provide lockers.

-- /\/\/\ BarryW /\/\/\ Stay so busy you don't have time to die.

Roper, your comments are inflammatory and your assumptions are untrue. Thank you for revealing the type of person you are.

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

Can you speak with the manager/owner of the shop about this? As space is always a premium in a workshop, it’s only to the advantage of the proprietor and instructors to keep the paying client/students happy and communication and arrangements should be made to insure that no one’s project gets disturbed.

I would even go as far as demanding an appology and a refund for the materials thrown out and shop fees to show you are serious about this, as even if the project cost $50. or less, it’s the point that they need to pay up and be accountable for your loss. The instructor (if at fault) needs to be shown that his actions are to be accounted for. This action is not so much for the dollar return, but for the acknowledgement that a wrong has been done and you are asking for fair recognition.

-- "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." ~ Edgar Allan Poe

any time you need someone to keep you in check tom i will be here for you.and thats right i don’t worry about people touching my stuff they know better.and just to set to record straight i am a good guy as long as you treat me right.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

All my adult life I have had my own shop. My shop. My tools. My power equipment. My wood. My projects. I was in control. Then a little over a yerar ago I moved into a Senior Co-op with a woodshop in the basement. It was a real learning experence for me. Management told me when we moved in that eveything in the shop was for everyone to use. As a new-kid-on-the-block I soon found out the unspoken ‘rules’. One of the members, that is in the shop just about everyday and has been there since day one (about 4 years), told me that “If it is not yours, don’t use it”. Others in the shop says “That’s the way he is, just let him be and stay out of his way”. So, that is what I have been doing. I have had some wood missing at times. I now put my name on all of my wood and projects. So far, so good.

-- Ron in Osseo, Minnesota

Roper, Leck mich am Arsch!

Sie haben einen Vogel im Kopf.

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

Tom,

Ich hatte keine Ahnung, dass Sie sprachen Deutsch. Der einzige Weg, ich kann sprechen, ist die Verwendung eines Übersetzungsdienst von Google ….. (lacht laut)

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

It was something I picked up reading all those BMW and Porsche magazines…

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

alright, a flame war is not what i wanted here, so tom – drop it.

thank you everyone for your suggestions and condolences. yes it is a public shop. however, it is not continuously open meaning they only teach classes there on mondays, wednesdays and saturdays (which is also open shop day). aside from that, it is not being used aside from the instructors, of which there are 3-TOTAL.
as for leaving projects out, it’s the way it is done there. there are projects all over the shop, granted most of them are the instructors’, but there are other students and open shoppers projects around at any given time. NOT TO MENTION, i had permission from the saturday instructor/monitor to use the shelf. did i mention i had been using the shelf for over a year? did i mention i know all the instructors and that they all knew what my current project was AND where i kept it? the shelf is only 3 ft long and my current project was taking up less than a quarter of that. so it was not an issue of space.

i am mostly pissed about the lack of respect for someone else’s materials. all the instructor had to do was call me (he has my number and if he doesn’t anymore, then the saturday instructor definitely does) OR leave a note asking me to move my stuff. and why throw my wood away when there is a stool that a disgruntled (fired) instructor smashed taking up a lot more space on another shelf? and why not throw out some of his turnings gone wrong that sit all over the shop in various places? is it personal? i don’t know. but what i do know is it’s BULLS*.

as for contacting the owner, i am not sure that’s even feasible. the instructors read the emails, answer the phone messages and basically make it so the owner doesn’t have to think about the shop. in fact, i’ve only met the guy once when he came in for a second and then left. i lodged a complaint with the sat. instructor (who is also pissed about this as well) and at their next meeting said he will bring it up. whether anything comes of it or not i can’t say. i’ll let you know.

I’ld be pissed just like you

get over it

n then get back at it

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

Why not see if you can go to that meeting?

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.