Moxon Vise Benchtop Bench #2: hardware installation and more design considerations

Looking great, Scott! To quote Mauricio: Oh yeah, this is going to be much, much, beter than Brandon’s. In Yo Face Brandon!

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

Would have loved to have seen this a few months ago! ;)

Next builders now have a great source. Thanks for the post.

-- From such crooked wood as that which man is made of, nothing straight can be fashioned. Immanuel Kant

well done, as usual.

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

The relief bevel will be very cool. I like, and look forward to your eval of the Moxon.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

Artful in all things.

I really enjoyed following your thought process through the leg design and determining the relief bevel. Your use of the golden ratio placed it in a tangible prospective for me. Excellent blog. Thank you.

-- ~Tony

Looks great. The bevel should look good.

Sean

Nicely done Scott! If you don’t mind, I will borrow some of your excellent ideas for my design!

I have half of my Benchcrafted hardware in the shop, the rest is on the way, so my bench build, and resulting Moxon build will be happening later this month… yours looks so good, I am encouraged and ready to get started!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

I don’t know, first you revel in Roubo and now your mixin’ it with Moxon. You’re setting the bar high. Luckily, I’m not affected by pictures of gorgeous benches or new shiny tools.

Thanks for documenting the process though, not that I’ll ever refer to it. :o)

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

I know the bevel at the front of the chop looks good but you may want to reconsider. When sawing the dovetails the piece is always elevated above the front chop and the saw should not come close to the chop, making the bevel unneccessary. If you leave the chop full thickness it can be used as a surface to register your chisel. This makes it much easier to get a flat perpendicular bottom when paring the pin bottoms.
Function over form…

^ Damn good point.

-- ~Tony

Really good point

-- I hate being bipolar. It's awesome! :^ ) ^:

...and less work.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

lj61673,
Given your stament, I pare down the relief bevel to just 38% of the thickness. This will leave a good 1 1/4” flat surface for registration.

Now: I am open to suggestion here. I have contemplated how to execute the bevel. It is essentially a stopped round-over. My thoughts are to make 45 degree relief x-cuts on each end perpendicular to long axis. Then split out the waste to achieve a starter bevel. Then start cross grain planing.

Once happy with that contour, start shaping the stops to echo the circular form of the hand wheels.

I was going to make a template from the leg vise chop to fair the curve.

Smooth and finish with sand paper.

-- I hate being bipolar. It's awesome! :^ ) ^:

Very nice design and realisation.

You plan to make dogholes at 1 1/2” from the edge.

If you plan to also use holdfast in these holes, this seems (to me) to be, very close to the edge.

You might want to experiment with that first on scrap because the stress induced by the holdfast might cause a failure by shearing.

Great reading about tension and compression by Chris Hall :

”In fact, when it comes to designing pegged wood connections, the timber framing practice is now to follow the established engineering standards for bolted timber connections: compression joints require a minimum 3x peg diameter measured in length of material which remains in the tenon beyond the peg – the relais, or ‘relish’ as it is termed. For tension joints however, 7x peg diameter is the minimum.”

-- Sylvain, Brussels, Belgium, Europe - The more I learn, the more there is to learn

This is going to be the most unique moxon ever. Cant wait to see the reveal!
Its going to be so much better than Brandon’s its not even funny. He should be ashamed of half aasing his moxon the way he did…

Andy, resistance is futile….

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch