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Split Roubo Workbench #9: Tail Vise Installation

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« Part 8: Dovetails and the front laminate Part 9 of Split Roubo Workbench series Part 10: The Legs - part I »

I have hesitated to post this blog because the variables involved are hard to describe and I didn’t take very good pics. Regardless, here goes.

Moral of the story – If all else fails, follow the instructions.

To install the rails for the plate &nut assembly you route out a 1/4” rabbet so that they are 3 3/4” from the upper surface. My top thickness is 4 1/16” – so close enough. The routing went fine but the plate would not clear at the far end.

Well crap! I thought that I had routed to deep. I scratched my head and figured that I needed spacers to raise the raise (actually lower because the bench is upside down) the rails so the plate will clear.

The spacers. I had to take these in and out several times because the screw action was binding. But they looked good!

Spacer installed

Looks good!

The plate barely clears!

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But the screw kept binding when the assembly approached the end cap. I wish I had a video. It wasn’t horrible but it wasn’t right.

Every time I disassembled everything and sanded the spacers thinner and thinner the binding improved. EPIPHANY! Maybe the spacers are not needed. I took everything out and checked the routing depth from the surface. That is the combo ruler sticking up. It was exactly 3 3/4”. It was the extra 1/16” in thickness of the top that made the difference because the top was the reference for laying out everything else in the tail vise. Duh! Now I know how Al feels every day. It was terrifying.

I reinstalled the vise and had smooooth action but I was back to the plate clearance problem.


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So, I removed about 1/8” from this area using a chisel and router plane (which did not perform well in this application).


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Done with the top but still need to make my dogs. Thanks for checking out the progress.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali



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#1 posted 832 days ago

It is just beautiful Scott. You are doing such an outstanding job.

-- ~Tony

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#2 posted 832 days ago

Wow, now it’s so close to being complete I can taste it. Exciting capability you have at hand, just outstanding!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#3 posted 832 days ago

It is looking great, glad you got the sticking resolved, you want that baby to sliiiide smoooothly.

-- Every cloud has a silver lining

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#4 posted 832 days ago

Dude! It is looking sweeeeet….carry on.

By the way, if this is part 9, how many more parts to go?

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#5 posted 832 days ago

Looking good Scot. I bet you stood there just winding that beauty in and out didn’t you? I would have.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#6 posted 832 days ago

Duh! Now I know how Al feels every day.
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I spit my coffee out at that one. Good on you.
The bench looks absolutely fantastic.
To mimic your physique, you should employ some delicate, feminine legs.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 832 days ago

Al, you may jest sir, but this is serious business. Actually, I am strongly considering tapering the leg or foot just below the lower stretchers. I would taper it ~ 30%. I wish I knew sketchup to help visualize it.

I had considered a slightly tapered leg where the taper began ~ 1/3 down from the bench top surface. Yet, i was too lazy and scared to deal with the resultant angles in the stretchers etc.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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#8 posted 832 days ago

That is looking sweet, Scott.
Those dang directions, you never know if they are right or if you need to modify.

Thanks for the update,
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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#9 posted 832 days ago

Scott, I tell people that I prefer robust straight legs on my furniture. Truth is, I’m scared of the taper. If you’re sold on it, I don’t think it would be that hard to figure the angles for the stretchers. That’s the kind of thing I’d probably set up and scribe. I really like the splayed legs with the angled leg vise but I’m simply too chicken for it.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 832 days ago

I like the idea of angles below the lower stretcher! Add a bunch of visual interest at no impact to strength / integrity. You’ve got handplanes… scribe the line, plane to the line, done. OR scribe the line, saw close to the line w/ your D8 or suitable panel saw, plane to the line.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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#11 posted 832 days ago

^or, run it over your SawStop, lol!
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-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#12 posted 832 days ago

Scot – If you PM me the rough dimensions of the top, stretchers and legs, I’d be happy to knock up a few examples of tapering just below the stretchers. I could do it tonight if you want to see what it looks like. Were you thinking of tapering all four sides or just the inside faces between the stretchers on the front and side?

It won’t take long to knock out a few examples.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#13 posted 832 days ago

^Andy to the rescue. Scott, Andy can whip that stuff up in seconds. I’d take him up on it. I’d like to see it, at least.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#14 posted 832 days ago

Awesome Scott. Have you seen how Garret Hack makes his dogs? He has the easiest process I’ve seen, It makes me want square dogs. Its a square piece with a kerf cut on the band saw where he just inserts a strip of ash.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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#15 posted 832 days ago

By the way that is in the FWW Workbench special that is on sale now.

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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