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Mug Build and Joining Experiment Using the Tilt Feature of my Router Lift

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Blog entry by luv2learn posted 04-03-2012 08:46 PM 4671 reads 3 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

This is my first attempt at blogging and I must admit that it has been more frustrating to do than actually building the mug experiment.

A while ago I posted two mug projects on my Lumberjocks projects page. Mugs and More mugs

The steps I took to build all of them was the same. The only thing that changed was the materials that I used. Each of those mugs were built using 24 individual segments or staves. I joined a 7.5 degree bevel on each side of the staves then butt glued them together. I worried latter that the butt joints might fail and leak but only time and use will tell for sure.

When I built and posted my tilting router lift One of the LJ’s commented: “That thing is awesome, I just can’t imagine what I would use the tilting action for. I’m sure we’ll see it in action soon!” His comment got me to thinking about the mugs and how I might improve the glue joints and the strength of the build itself. So I decided to do an experiment using the tilt feature of my new router lift to improve the joining of the mug staves.

For this project I decided to use a piece of 2×4 cutoff to build the mug I didn’t want to waste precious hardwood for an experiment. This is a fourteen sided mug and the degree of bevel I needed to make it work was 25.7. I decided to make a tilted rabbited joint. Now, you can’t find a stock router bit with a 25.7 degree profile. But with the tilt feature I was able to use a common straight bit to do the job. Are the imaginative juices flowing yet?

There are 71 pictures of the build most of them with descriptions and they are all on Photobucket. So rather than importing all of them to this blog I am going to provide a link to the photo album. This might not be the most convenient way to do this but I have already spent most of the day being frustrated by my lack of blogging and computer skills. So bear with me and enjoy the pictures.

I know that some of you more experienced woodworkers will find that taking pictures of some of the most obvious steps redundant but for others it might be of some value. Photobucket

For those new to photobuket, double clicking on the first picture in the album will enlarge it and then you can read the descriptions under it. Use the arrow key to advance to the next picture. You can also select the slide option.

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green



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SASmith

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#1 posted 04-03-2012 11:12 PM

Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
You can’t have too many pictures.

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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luv2learn

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#2 posted 04-03-2012 11:26 PM

SASmith,
Thank you for looking. I appreciate it.

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green

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Roger

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#3 posted 04-04-2012 12:23 PM

Yes, I also appreciate the details and pics. You/we/us can never have too many pics. I wish LJ’s would give us 8-10 pics for project builds instead of 6.

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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Andy

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#4 posted 04-04-2012 12:34 PM

Very creative and something I would like to try. Thanks for all the pictures, but how did you smooth up the inside and outside so evenly?
Thanks again for sharing your great idea with all of us.
Andy

-- If I can do it, so can you. www.artboxesbyandy.com

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luv2learn

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#5 posted 04-04-2012 03:59 PM

Roger, I agree!
Andy, I used my spindle sander and some hand sanding on the inside and a belt and disk sander on the outside.

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green

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woodshaver

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#6 posted 04-04-2012 10:52 PM

luv2lean ,
I posted a blog of my band saw mug experiment. Thanks for the inspiration!
http://lumberjocks.com/woodshaver/blog/29327

-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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luv2learn

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#7 posted 04-05-2012 12:12 AM

woodshaver,

I just checked it out. It looked like a fast down and dirty build to me with great results. I like the way you think outside the box. I have seen turned mugs, carved mugs, segmented mugs, and now bandsaw mugs on LJ’s. What next?

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green

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woodshaver

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#8 posted 04-05-2012 12:16 AM

I got it!!! Forstner bit mugs!!! LOL !!!

-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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luv2learn

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#9 posted 04-05-2012 12:21 AM

You first!!! LOL !!! Ooops, you went first last time :)

-- Lee - Northern idaho~"If the women don't find you handsome, at least they ought to find you handy"~ Red Green

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woodshaver

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#10 posted 04-05-2012 12:27 AM

Ha-ha! If I had a 2 1/2” or 3” forstner bit I would try it.

-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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Bluepine38

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#11 posted 03-01-2013 10:52 PM

Woodshaver, a 2 9/16” Milwaukee hole hawg bit works great.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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woodshaver

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#12 posted 03-01-2013 11:35 PM

Gus, (Bluepine38) 2 9/16” hole howg! Nice! I would love to see your mug!
I did a Google search. The bit is $27.00 and you will still have to cut the plug out and glue on a bottom.
Plus the bit only cuts to 2 1/4” depth. But if you have some better ideas please let us know!
Thanks!
Tony



-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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Bluepine38

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#13 posted 03-02-2013 08:27 PM

I am having one of those senior days and cannot get pictures to post. My bit is a Milwaukee selffeed bit #48-25-2562. I chuck the cut off section of tree between the spur center and tailstock to rough it round
and put a tenon on it. Then I chuck it and put the holehawg bit in my tailstock chuck and drill the wood.
when I get towards the bottom, I take the self feed screw out and put a short piece of 1/4” rod in its
place to keep the hole clean and drill to close to where the bottom of glass should be. I then put several
of these rough turned pieces in my old sawdust barrell, changing the sawdust inside the glass every week.
after 6 weeks or so they are fairly dry and not cracked. They are then ready to be finished. I was introduced
to this type of bit when I moonlighted for an electrician a few years (between 20 & 40) ago. they worked
great for punching holes in studs for wiring. When I get the picture bit squared away, I will post a blog.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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woodshaver

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#14 posted 03-02-2013 08:44 PM

Gus,
So it’s this bit and not the 49-56-9010. I can see how this would work! Thanks Gus!

-- Tony C St Augustine FL, My high school shop teacher said "You can do it"... Now I can't stop!

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