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Blog entry by Vince posted 01-14-2012 12:03 AM 4267 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Question.
I am a beginner wood turner and I recently turned a small bowl. This bowl was fairly dry but had some black in it.
I am not sure what type of wood this is but I believe it to be some sort of Fig. As I turned this bowl it had an ammonia/ mold smell.
What is this smell from? is it moldy wood?
Is it spalted?
If it is mold is it the type that if u breath it ,you can become sick?

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dspahn

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#1 posted 01-14-2012 12:45 AM

And thus begins the Zombie Apocalypse…

Nah! Just kidding! I don’t know the answers to your questions, but as another beginning wood turner, I’m very curious.

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Moby

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#2 posted 01-14-2012 12:49 AM

That kinda looks like black oak to me. This would explain the ammonia smells because wet oak has a unique scent to it. It doesn’t look spalted, so I think you’re fine.

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rance

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#3 posted 01-14-2012 12:58 AM

Any time you suspect mold, or fungus(spalting), you should take precautions. Anything out of the ordinary should raise a flag.

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David Kirtley

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#4 posted 01-14-2012 01:34 AM

I would be careful with any wood that has either an odor that you find foul or something that smells too good.

Turning as long as you are cutting is not that big of a deal as the pieces are large. Not that many woods are toxic to skin contact from chips. Scraping and sanding are the most problematic as they can cause respiratory issues. A respirator can be your friend.

Everyone has their own tolerance but the repeated contact from different woods brings the chance of sensitivity and you need to be very aware of your own body’s reaction. It can range from mild irritation to life threatening. Look out for any rash or redness. If you have any trouble breathing, stop immediately and get away from it. Personally if I was working on any wood and had difficulty breathing, I would not hesitate and go immediately to an emergency room. Not something to mess around with.

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Jimthecarver

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#5 posted 01-14-2012 02:06 AM

I have had to endure problems steming from this exact example your showing here. Word to the wise “ALWAYS PROTECT YOUR LUNGS” never go w/o protection.
I did and learned the hard way, please be smarter than I was.
Good luck!

-- Can't never could do anything, to try is to advance.

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David Craig

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#6 posted 01-14-2012 02:30 AM

Vince, you might want to invest in a respirator for use while turning. They are not that expensive. Some woods have mold, some can trigger allergies, all can take a toll on you from breathing. I bought one from a big box store for about 20 bucks and it is very comfortable to wear.

David

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jockmike2

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#7 posted 01-14-2012 05:51 AM

I did have a reaction to turning spalted Maple. It was dry too. I argued with one of FWW magazine female experts that was telling people you can’t get a reaction to dry spalted wood. I was vindicated in Wood Magazine when a Dr. wrote an article that stated anyone is suceptable to allergy from spalted wood of any kind,dry or wet. He stated the spores can infect the lungs cause an incurable disease. So basically you should wear a resperator no matter what. As David stated, any wood dust isn’t good for you long term. The so called expert from FWW was a well meaning mold specialist. However, I would trust a Dr’s word over a mold specialist any day. I told her that too. I think she got pissed.

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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Roger

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#8 posted 01-15-2012 07:06 PM

dspahn: LOL yup, the Z-Apocalypse is comin… Vince: just to be safe, I’d wear some sort o dust mask. a good one. certain dust particles are definately no good for ya. work/play safe. ya did a nice job turnin that bowl

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Kentuk55@bellsouth.net

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reggiek

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#9 posted 01-15-2012 07:20 PM

If in doubt…always lean towards safety. I wear a respirator when turning…the best being a full face mask. I went that direction after seeing all the small dust particles my shop filter picks up after a day of turning…The filter hangs from the ceiling a few feet away.

Particle masks are not good enough in these situations, in my opinion, as they do not form a complete seal – (I could tell on my end when I was done turning using a dust mask, that I would spend the evening sneezing and blowing my nose). Different woods have different levels of toxicity and our bodies have different levels of sensitivity. Never doubt that this dust can be harmful…or very irritating to the body….spalted woods have their special challenges also….all are toxic to some degree.

If you are going to be turning in the future….I would recommend a Trend Airshield or a Triton powered respirator….they are somewhat pricey…but when considering how much it costs for emergency medical care – or to treat a recurring problem – then they are very cheap by comparison.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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