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Blog entry by lilredweldingrod posted 10-12-2011 09:01 AM 4824 reads 0 times favorited 21 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I’ve been trying to get rid of the snipe from my Grizzly 12 1/2” planer. When David visited last year, we adjusted on the inlets and outlets and everything else. Then later there was some discussion on LJ’s about adding sticks on the sides of the boards to be planed.

I had an abundance of 1/4” thick pine stickers for stacking my lumber. I tried these on several boards but continued to get snipe. Well to day I figured out my problem I think. I cut new stickers from pine, but I cut them 5/16 thick.
If I hold the light just right, I can see a very minimal snipe that is easily removed with a ROS.

I made this to just fit through the planer at a full 12 1/2” wide with the stickers. As you can see, the snipe is virtually nonexistent. All the snipe is at the end of the sticks. I also found that I had to make the sticks extend at least 4 inches beyond the ends of the board. 2-2 1/2” still left very noticeable snipe.

I tried this on several pieces that I planed down to 3/8” thickness for a box to house my dado stack set. It worked every time.

Try this on your planer and let us know how it works for you



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cloakie1

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#1 posted 10-12-2011 09:42 AM

that looks to me like your rollers in the bed are set to high.you could also try a false bed in the planer to eliminate your problem.hope this helps

-- just get stuck in and have a go!!!

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Dennisgrosen

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#2 posted 10-12-2011 11:17 AM

good for you Randy :-)
now you finely can get all the box´s made before Chrismas …. LOL
now back to fly with chips before the dust settles

Dennis

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patron

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#3 posted 10-12-2011 02:09 PM

no snipe

no gripe

i think i finally............

thought ?

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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William

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#4 posted 10-12-2011 02:25 PM

Snipe? I didn’t know you could do anything about snipe?
Seriously though, I tried once to eliminate snipe on my el-cheapo planer. I must admit that I tried for all of about one day. Then I gave up and started adding a few inches to my wood when preparing it to be planed, so I could cut off the sniped part afterwards. I will have to revisit this problem in the future.

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GregD

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#5 posted 10-12-2011 02:52 PM

When it matters, I need to do about the same thing with my DeWalt planer.

Since then I have been able to get away with only using 1 length of scrap. And it doesn’t need to be attached to the edge of the board if the planer is feeding stock smoothly. If I am planing several shorter boards I’ll run them through the planer end-to-end with a scrap board at the front and another at the end. What seems to be critical is that both feed rollers on either side of the cutterhead need to be engaged on something.

-- Greg D.

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NBeener

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#6 posted 10-12-2011 03:23 PM

Dang.

I thought this was a political thread about non-payment of back taxes, but … I guess that’s Snipes—Wesley Snipes.

Ah, well. Good for you, Rand. You chased out one of the biggest shop ghosts in the business :-)

-- -- Neil

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#7 posted 10-12-2011 03:34 PM

Very clever idea. How do you fasten the stickers to the board you arre planing?

-- We all must start somewhere in our journey of doing what we love to do.

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Gene Howe

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#8 posted 10-12-2011 03:39 PM

Cloakie1 has the simplest and cheapest solution.
I use a piece of cheap, melamine covered shelving material from HD.
Extends about 6” past the stock table in front and about 12” on the out feed side.
A cleat on the bottom acts as a stop against the in feed table edge.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Dale J Struhar Sr

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#9 posted 10-12-2011 03:53 PM

This I’ll have to try. Thanks for the tip.

-- Dale, Ohio

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PurpLev

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#10 posted 10-12-2011 03:55 PM

this is a great way to eliminate snipe.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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lilredweldingrod

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#11 posted 10-12-2011 05:13 PM

@cloakie 1 & Gene, I tried the bed and it made no difference on the snipe. If I am running several boards and run them through butt to butt, I eliminate the snipe too. But that keeps me hopping and I still had the snipe on the first and last board.

@Greg, I use two spots of hot glue. I bought an el cheepo hot glue gun at HF. I like the hot glue much better than the double sided tape and it is much easier to clean afterward. I opted for gluing the sticker to the side of the boards to eliminate the hassle of trying to keep up with to many loose pieces. I guess I’m not as fast as you young bucks are. lol

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Gene Howe

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#12 posted 10-12-2011 08:59 PM

So, you are getting snipe on both the front and back end?
I just looked at your picture. The snipe on the carrier sticks is really evident…in feed and out feed.
Could it be that your rollers or blades need adjustment?
If the flat board bed didn’t help, it tells me that it ain’t your beds that are out of adjustment.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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GregD

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#13 posted 10-12-2011 09:55 PM

Yup, hot glue is great for that.

I also found the bed doesn’t help snipe on my DeWalt – actually makes it worse.

The best thing about the carrier sticks is – they always work.

-- Greg D.

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lilredweldingrod

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#14 posted 10-12-2011 11:13 PM

@Gene, from what I know, the snipe, both front and rear is just the nature of the beast. Grizzly does not sell this unit any more. I got it because the price was right. lol

@GregD, Now that I know the sticks work, I’m taking the attitude of, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I looked at the manual after what cloakie 1 said earlier, and I found nothing about any adjustments for the rollers or blades. I’ll talk to Grizzly’s tech service and see what they say about it.

The sticks save me about 4-5 inches of good board so this will be normal operation from now on.

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Joe Lyddon

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#15 posted 10-13-2011 01:45 AM

Rand, do you just place the sticks on each side of the board you’re planning… OR…
do you have an actual Sled?

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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