Entertainment Center #6: bleed through

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Blog entry by kolwdwrkr posted 02-22-2010 03:07 AM 1286 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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It’s funny how things go when you don’t charge enough, are in a hurry, or life just keeps holding your head down. This job was supposed to be a piece of cake. The build went well, but the material I purchased must be junk. It’s shop grade maple, which is what the supplier recommends for paint grade. As I have shown previously I had to bondo everything, which was a bummer. Then I primed everything. I cleaned the gun and went to paint, but then the gun wouldn’t gain preasure. I tried everything I could to get it to work (spray tech airless) and then had a painter friend come over and look at the gun. He decided he couldn’t get it going either, so I just had him use his equipment and spray the project. $125 later and it’s still not the best job in the world. The materials being sprayed are Ecoshield water borne paints with low to no VOC. The primer apparently was having a hard time drying even after a few days. I figured it was just the feel, because the can says 2 hours. So we sanded and sprayed the paint. The next day I noticed some stain from the plywood coming through. I saw some of it in the primer, but didn’t think it was a problem.
This was pretty much everywhere. So I had to get some Kilz primer and spray it over the stained areas. Then repainted. Problem solved. So the painting is done. I need to rehang the doors, do the speaker cloth, and deliver. I have a feeling the speaker doors warped after being painted with the waterbased paint. We will see.

Any feedback on what the bleed through is? I know now that I will buy better material and use zinnser or kilz primer from now on. My gun is brand new, so I also need to figure that out. The next post will show the installed project. Some projects just can’t go good. I think I am done with my business. Having a full time job is enough for now. Especially if I’m not making extra money by doing side jobs. I’d just assume work over time or do hobby woodworking on the weekends. At least that way there isn’t a client to worry about, no deadlines, etc. I just want to enjoy some of the free time for awhile.

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

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#1 posted 02-22-2010 03:27 AM

all i can come up with these days ,
just like everything else ,
everyone is cutting quality to save money .
manufacturers do it by laying everyone off ,
making cheaper products ,
calling them ’ new improved ’ ,
and charging more for them .

by the time we all get aware of the cheap quality ,
they have sold millions of dollars worth !

sorry i can’t help you with the sprayer .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 02-22-2010 03:38 AM

i think your right…at least for awhile…either that or charge a high priceso that you can feel you gained something..and painting wood is just wrong keith…lol…...there is the problem…haha..i solved it…....aint i a genius…you can hire me for a consult any time…...hey smarter then the average…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#3 posted 02-22-2010 03:46 AM

LOL, You are right Grizz. I should have known better. I like the hard learned lessens best.

-- ~ Inspiring those who inspire me ~

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#4 posted 02-22-2010 05:51 AM

Hey Keith, I was going to guess somehow the bondo caused the problem but it’s too wide spread and I’ve never had that kind of a problem with bondo. My next guess is that when you sanded the ply, the cheap under layer lead impregnated Chinese wood product leaked out to poisen you and anyone else that comes in contact with it just like they planned. lol, I don’t know. I’ve never painted cheap plywood before but I have seen resin leak out of my cheap plywood while it was in storage waiting for the next hurricane. I’m with you about not doing this for money, because woodworking is a release for me and anyone telling me how to do it would just stink.

-- Jim

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Kent Shepherd

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#5 posted 02-22-2010 05:34 PM

Keith, I feel your pain. As rewarding as woodworking can be, it is equally as frustrating. I have chosen to forget the number of times I’ve dealt with problems that cause you to lose money and time on a project. All you can do is hang in there, get it finished, and move on, hoping the next one is better. You usually learn some valuable lessons, which make it somewhat worhwhile after all.

As far as advice—-I’ve never had that kind of bleed through on new material. I doubt that is was the Bondo since it’s made to paint over. I have used it some, and never had problems. It probably is something in the plywood, maybe the glue? You are right about the Kilz. If you even think you’ll have bleed through it’s always good to start with it. I use lacquer sealer, which will show bleed through if some thing is there, so I have to plan ahead. I used Kilz quite a bit in refinishing stained pieces that were to be painted.

Good luck finishing the project.


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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#6 posted 02-22-2010 09:48 PM

I think your much better off carving as a hobby, now that you have a steady job.

You’re very good at it.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN.

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