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#1 posted 03-15-2010 05:46 AM
I’ve been going through all the same research to try to find some good deals on my 1st set of planes. This was a good read. I found one interesting thing in that Stanley made its bedrock line for both Keene Kutter and Winchester for a few years. Keene Kutter and Winchester sold them under a slightly different naming convention than their other planes so you can tell them apart. I got one and it’s almost identical to my 605 Bedrock but I didn’t find the handle as comfortable as the Bedrock. Other than that, it is the same plane for considerably less money (on eBay) than the Bedrocks typically go for.
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#2 posted 03-15-2010 12:00 PM
This is very helpful and I appreciate all of this information.I am from the non experienced part of the market. I have been reading as much as I can before starting my plane collection.Unless I spend the money on new Lie Nielsen or other high end planes, I need to do a lot of homework. Basically, you most always get what you pay for.
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#3 posted 03-15-2010 04:00 PM
Thanks for the information. Knowledge is power.
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#4 posted 03-15-2010 07:56 PM
Many thanks for the write up!
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#5 posted 03-16-2010 02:32 AM
I, too have built my cache of working wood planes from used Stanleys, M-F & bedrock & can’t imagine needing anything else. They all work superbly. Some needed some TLC & others did not, but they all were reasonably priced. (even on ebay). Do some research, so you know what you’re buying and if you’re buying to use, you can avoid the pricier rare & collectible varieties in favor of more common ones that are built just as well. -SST
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#6 posted 06-17-2010 10:22 PM
Thank you very much for pointing this out to me… the info is very helpful in making my choices.
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#7 posted 06-17-2010 11:40 PM
I am always informed and impressed by any and all of your blogs and reviews. Thanks Scott
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#8 posted 09-26-2010 05:52 PM
I agree with other positive comments. I am just beginning to learn about…and purchase…handplanes. Looking for older planes on ebay, craigslist, etc. is a dangerous crapshoot unless you have the knowledge base. Thanks for expanding mine.
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#9 posted 03-03-2011 10:43 PM
^what Cessna said. Thanks for this, KS.
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#10 posted 09-06-2011 11:00 PM
thanks for blogging this; it’s helpful to know a bit more about some of the “other” plane manufacturers, ie. non-Stanley.
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#11 posted 09-26-2011 03:15 AM
Thanks for the info. I appreciate the effort you put into this, thanks again for the knowledge sharing.
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#12 posted 05-16-2013 03:02 AM
Pictures look awesome and help quite a lot to differentiate one plane from the other, many thanks.
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#13 posted 12-19-2013 01:19 AM
If one knows how to get irons razor sharp and can stone/file surfaces for a good fit, most of even the budget planes out there can work pretty well. I have a few cheap planes, as well as “type 20” #4 & #7 Stanley Baileys, that perform pretty well once tuned properly. I haven’t found blade or casting metallurgy to be inferior, and thin stock Stanley blades perform quite well when properly sharpened. I have some older Stanley’s as well, and don’t find them to really be superior to the newer versions. I know this flies in the face of popular sentiment, but is my experience. They certainly aren’t as nice as my Veritas planes, but I still use them successfully.
It takes time and patience to learn how to tune these cheaper alternatives, but I enjoyed the educational process. For those on a budget, don’t be afraid of the later type 20 Stanley’s for the right price, and expensive thicker aftermarket blades are not required to make any of the Stanley Bailey planes perform. I also have new Stanley standard and low angle contractor grade block planes that perform quite well.
#14 posted 01-16-2014 05:48 PM
I agree that you can get the later model planes to work if you tune and sharpen them correctly. Depending on machining quality you may or may not be able to do fine work. E.g. simple block plane that has a wide mouth and offers no adjustment.
I also think that less experienced woodworkers, buy one of the later model planes and with out the knowledge and skill to tune/sharpen it they get turned off to hand tools. The idea of taking an older plane and restoring it can often spur a person to take the time to learn.
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