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Blog entry by jpw1995 posted 2507 days ago 778 reads 0 times favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

There seems to be a lot of talk about planes on the forum these days, so I thought I’d throw my hat in the ring. In David's Hand Planes #1 - Stanley Bench Plane I said I’d try to post some pictures of my great grandfather’s old planes, so here they are.

I wish I had some wonderful story to give you about my great grandfather using these planes, but all I know is that they were his old wooden tool chest that I found recently in my mother’s garage. He passed away when I was very young so I never really got a chance to know him, but I like to think that he created a lot of great things with these planes. Hopefully I can clean them up and restore them to a usable state so that I can create a lot more great things with them.

I mentioned in David’s thread that I had a couple of Bedrock planes, but I was mistaken. Only one of four is a Bedrock. I’m not sure what the others are since I’m not familiar at all with planes, but I’m hoping someone can help me with some identifications.

The first four pictures are of the Bedrock plane. This plane is in the best shape out of the four. It seems that all of the pieces are there, but the handles are cracked and beaten up.

This next plane has more damage than the Bedrock. All of the pieces are there, but the handles are cracked on this one also. There is a large piece broken off of one side. The front of the plane has an “05” on it which leads me to believe it may be a Stanley No. 5. I’m not sure about that, but it’s my best guess.

This next little plane had no names or numbers on it so your guess is as good as mine. This one seems to be missing several pieces.

This final plane is some kind of oddball. I’ve never seen another one like it, but maybe one of you guys can identify it.

I hope some of you plane experts out there can help me identify what I have here. Like I said before, I’d like to restore these to working order. I’m not interested in selling them, so the “value” to be will never have a dollar sign behind it. I just hope I can learn to use them and create something that would have made my great grandfather proud.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY



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WayneC

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#1 posted 2507 days ago

Hmmm. Photos are not showing yet. The handles can be fixed or replaced with similar handles from parts planes… Big concernes would be any pitting, broken or missing parts or chips/cracks in the metal.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#2 posted 2507 days ago

I’m able to copy the urls and post directly into the browser and see the planes. Your Bedrock appears to be a 4 1/2 smoother and would be a good candidate for david’s process to remove the rust. It is a very desireable plane. Restored it is a multi hundered dollar plane. I will check the others.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#3 posted 2507 days ago

How big is the mystery plane? Length and width. It is missing it’s blade, lever cap, and chip breaker. Does it have any writing behind the frog? Any chance it says Stanley on the lateral adjustment? Any writing on the brass knob?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 2507 days ago

I just edited the picture formats. Let me know if they show up now. Thanks.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

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#5 posted 2507 days ago

The only text I could find on the mystery plane is “MADE IN USA” just in front of the handle. It is approximately 9” long by 2” wide.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

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#6 posted 2507 days ago

The photos are showing now. The 5 is a 5c. Hard to tell if it is a stanley. Would look for patent info on the blade depth and lateral adjustments. It has part of one side missing and probably cannot be put back into use.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#7 posted 2507 days ago

Jp,
What is the black on the sole of the third plane, the one without a lever cap and iron? It looks like it might be #3 size. I’ve never seen anything like the last one. The 4 1/2 can probably be brought back into service. The 5C is a wall hanger. Good luck and have fun.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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#8 posted 2507 days ago

I would say the 4 1/2 is a serious plane that you can build your plane collection around. I’m assuming the rust is only surface rust and there is not any serious pitting. Hard to tell from the photo.

A little PVA and a woodworking clamp and the rear handle would be as good as new….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#9 posted 2507 days ago

You’re lucky that the best plane of the bunch is in the best shape! Good luck with your restoration process! Keep us posted!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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#10 posted 2507 days ago

Thos,
The black seems to be leftover residue from tape being stuck on the bottom. I don’t know why it was there, but it’s still sticky.

Wayne,
The rust is only surface rust, and it really doesn’t seem to be that heavy considering it’s been sitting in that old tool chest for who knows how many decades.

Thanks to everyone for all the input. I’ll try to get the Bedrock up and running, so don’t be surprised if I start asking you guys a lot of questions about the process. I will clean the others up and display them in my shop. Hmmm…. plane display case… sounds like I have a new project.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

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#11 posted 2507 days ago

The last mystery “plane” is actually an ice shave. Way back when, run it over a block of ice and you have shaved ice (gathered on the interior – open it up to dump it out) for your lemonaide or tea. Did they have snowcones back then? I don’t know.

The views of the 5C don’t strike me as a Stanley, maybe . . . but I would clean the rust from the top of the blade that points toward the worker and see if there’s a name imprinted on the blade under the rust.

Maybe an Ohio Tool plane?

-- Paul, Texas

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#12 posted 2506 days ago

Wow, thanks for the insight, Paul. I never would have thought of an ice shave.

-- JP, Shelbyville, KY

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