Would a Canadian find this offensive?

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Blog entry by johnhutchinson posted 01-16-2015 09:53 PM 1720 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I know that some of my buddies are Canadian, and I’m sure there are a bazillion more out there, so I have a question for them. But first the story behind the question …

When I was working on my Frankenstein musical automaton, I was fascinated with how a Geneva stop mechanism snaps things to attention in one increment per turn of the crank. So that got me to thinkin’. What else could I snap to attention? A soldier? A saluting soldier? A saluting Mountie? A saluting moose Mountie? And then maybe “O Canada” for the musical accompaniment? YES !!!

It just so happens that Kikkerland offers “O Canada” as a hand-cranked musical movement.

So would something like this be offensive to a Canadian?

If not, I’d like to partner with a Canadian LJ to put the project together and we’ll see if we can publish it in Canadian Woodworker. I’ll supply all the geeky gear stuff. It will actually use the same mechanism that I used on the back of Frank.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#1 posted 01-16-2015 10:41 PM

Too cool. The canadian mountie artwork was done by a friend of mine!

-- Kevin, Blue Springs, MO

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#2 posted 01-16-2015 10:45 PM

As a Canadian i think thats a great idea. Personally I would love to have a Mountie moose

-- Greg in Ontario, Canada

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#3 posted 01-16-2015 10:50 PM

I don’t have an issue with it, eh?

You should be able to publish it in Canadian Woodworker, they are suffering for good material (in my opinion).

All the Best!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#4 posted 01-16-2015 11:14 PM

I’m not offended at all. I like the moose, or in a pinch a beaver (add a tail salute too please). We don’t take ourselves too seriously anyway.

-- Mother Nature talks, I try to listen

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#5 posted 01-16-2015 11:21 PM

X2 Randy, (and where have you been ?)
Like Doe’s tail salute idea very much !

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#6 posted 01-16-2015 11:26 PM

Thanks guys. I didn’t know if I was treading on thin ice.

I did finding it interesting that Kikkerkand, a yuppie store in New York, is selling a hand-cranked version of Canada’s national anthem that’s made in China. Go figure? Must be a United Nations thing. :)

I particularly like the Mountie moose because of the eyes and antlers—great things to animate !!!

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#7 posted 01-16-2015 11:48 PM

Too cool. The canadian mountie artwork was done by a friend of mine!

- kevinw

Small world, Kevin. I wonder if your friend would be interested in taking on a commission for his version of the Mountie moose? I’m sure that what I’ve posted has some kind of copyright associated with it. The moose would be a difficult thing to paint for the average Joe/Jane (like me), but a full-size color image could be included in an article and then adhered to the reader’s cutout. I’ve seen that done frequently in Scroll Saw Woodworking.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#8 posted 01-17-2015 05:12 AM

It’s great to hear this idea has the approval of our Canadian friends. I can see lots of potential for this concept. Keep us informed.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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#9 posted 01-17-2015 05:35 AM

as long as the Canadian was not Muslim you are probably safe not offending anyone

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#10 posted 01-17-2015 05:55 AM

not offensive at all. You might also consider a hockey player.

I don’t know if this would apply but I recall news stories about using the Mountie image. I know for a while it was held by Disney on behalf of the RCMP.

-- Peter, Woodbridge, Ontario

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#11 posted 01-17-2015 06:32 AM

Peter: Now you’re scaring me off. I’ve been told to stay far, far, (and another far) away from anything even remotely connected to Disney—they’re staunch defenders of their copyrights.
I did some research on the Moose Mountie image that I posted, and the copyright appears to be owned by ClipArtBest …
They say, “Free clipart that you can download to your computer and use in your designs.” but I doubt if that applies to my intended use. I sent them an email regarding permission, so we’ll see.

A generic hockey player would probably be safer. :)

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#12 posted 01-17-2015 06:37 AM

John, How much of a difference do the images have to have? Surely a Canadian Mountie Moose is generic enough that the concept is not copyrighted.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#13 posted 01-17-2015 05:31 PM

John your idea is not offensive at all. Go for it.
What is offensive is when a female CNN reporter talking about the terrorist event in Ottawa, referred to the world famous RCMP as the Royal Mountain police. Where did she study her journalism??!!

-- Roman:... These Boots Were Made For 'Talkin'!

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#14 posted 01-17-2015 10:25 PM

Roman: That does it. I will !!! Nothing ventured, etc.

The Mountie Moose in the image I posted is crying out to be paired with a Geneva Stop. Take a look at the button in his right … uh … armpit. That will be the pivot point for the saluting arm. The Stop with rotate the arm in crisp 90-degree increments and then hold it there for a full revolution of the crank.

The Stop will literally snap him to attention.

Rocking the antlers to and fro should be a piece of cake, and I really want to rotate the eyes.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#15 posted 01-18-2015 01:33 AM

How about …

Royal Canadian Mounted Moose ???

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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