one of our fellow jocks asked me to help him thru the process of makeing a shelf similar to one i had posted , i ageed and he called me . well over the phone wasnt going that well so i told him id try to do a blog . this will be the first time so ill give it my best shot !
the one im going to do has the sides flared back to the wall at 30 degrees instead of returned back on a 45. like a mantle top would be if you prefer its the same process just cut 45 s instead of the 30s
first ill make the bottom piece . i made mine about 2 in. wide and about 24 in. long i cut a 30 deg. angle on both ends . and i routed a small profile on the front and sides
next ill cut the crown moulding . when cutting this on a mitre saw you would lay it on the saw upside down
and make sure the back side is flat against the fence ( see arrow )
you can check to see that you had it bedded right by laying the piece on its face and with your square check the cut at the bottom edge it should be sq. .
cut the front piece at the proper length with an outside corner cut on 30 deg. on both ends . and then the side pieces get cut the same with outside corner cuts at both ends as well and both 30 deg.
now ill apply the crown mldg. to the bottom piece with a little glue and a few brads . i usually put the front piece on first
then i apply the two sides . youll want these to be exactly the proper length any discrepancy will show up when you mount it to the wall . again i use glue on the crown joint and the to the bottom and a couple brads
next i make the top . i allow a 1/2 or so overhang on the front and two sides . and make sure the back is flush . notice the two holes i drilled and counter sunk . these want to be 3/8 in from the back edge and 4 or 5 in. twords the center . i now router a small profile on the front and sides . personally i usually do the bottom edge where the top meets the crown . but thats what ever you like better , you can do the top instead or even both
then i attach the top with brads up thru the crown into the top
next i make a piece of deadwood for mounting to the wall from the back i measure the with of the cavity, and cut a pice of scrap that width and short enough to fit in the cavity
this piece will get mounted on your wall with screws and hopefilly catching a couple studs then the shelf slides over it and two screws in the holes that were drilled thru the top down into the deadwood . and thats about it hope it was understandable and not too ugly ! thanks
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GaryK
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posted 146 days ago
Great blog! That should make it nice and easy for anyone wanting to build one.
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mrtrim
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posted 146 days ago
thanks gary it was acually kinda fun . well except in the middle of it i dropped my camera off the bench and had to go buy a new one !lol
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manilaboy
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posted 145 days ago
I think I can do that! How about the finish? Your previous project posts were finished marvelously. I wish you can also share your techniques. Thanks man!
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Todd A. Clippinger
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posted 145 days ago
I have made several of these from crown left over from jobs. People love getting them.
I make them the same way that you do except that the return to the wall is a straight 90. The mounting is exactly the same.
I add grooves in the top to hold plates and pictures that lean against the wall.
Now that I think about it, I will have to add these in the projects section.
These are expensive to make based on the lineal foot cost of crown. It works out if I get an extra piece left over from a job.
-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana, http://amcraftsman.com
Scott Bryan
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posted 145 days ago
This is a really informative post. These shelves look complicated to build but your step-wise blog simplifies the construction process. I like the 30 degree return as well. I generally think in terms of 45 but this does add a nice detail to the project.
I am sure that we will see some shelving projects appear in future projects.
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
manila boy , im quite sure you can do it ! the finish well i dont always get to finish my bigger jobs as the customer usually already has a “professional ” . however on these small shelves i sometimes spray them with automobile paint .( i painted cars for many years ). this paint works very well on wood and opens up a whole new world of colors . plus metal flake or mother of pearl additives . thanks good luck
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
todd, my lumber yard makes these and sell them for small mantle tops and they get like 350.00 for them . i just give mine away to customers . in fact yesterday a customer was in the shop to check on his project and i saw him looking at the one i made for this blog and i said if you want that go put it in your car ! he snatched it up like it was a wad of 50 dollar bills ! lol
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cabinetmaker2
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posted 145 days ago
nice going on the blog, easy to followinstructions, and great pics….
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
scott , thanks for the comment , i think when you use these as a wall shelf the 30 deg. return makes a much smoother transition from the wall . you dont have that sharp corner sticking out . they are fun to make and try out different styles
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
thank you cabinet maker , i had fun doing it as well
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Thos. Angle
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posted 145 days ago
I think that was a dandy blog. Good instruction. I think I’ll build one just for practice.
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Grant Davis
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posted 145 days ago
Nice looking shelf Tim and a very informative blog. I can see some of these on the wall in my livingroom already.
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Todd A. Clippinger
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posted 145 days ago
I am glad to see that you are using automotive finishes. I was wondering about adhesion and compatibility on the wood.
I imagine that durability would not be a problem. If the finish will protect an automobile it should hold up in the house.
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rikkor
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posted 145 days ago
Thanks for posting this very informative blog.
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
thanks for the comments everyone . todd yes these finish is superb and you can use home depot type primer under it i use zinnzzer because i like the way it sands better than kilz thos. someone once told me practice makes perfect ! well it hasnt been quite that kind to me but it has made me better !
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Dadoo
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posted 145 days ago
Actually I think it’s really nice of you to blog this project so someone else could build one! Most people wouldn’t take the time. You’re alright in my book Mr.Trim!
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mrtrim
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posted 145 days ago
thank you dadoo ! its attitudes like yours that makes it enjoyable to do it , and the person i did it for pm ed me and thanked me as well . that makes it all worthwhile ! its about giveing back . i consider myself pretty much at the bottom of the heap on this site and im surprised and delighted when someone asks me how to do something ! i consider it an oportunity ! thanks again
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Todd A. Clippinger
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posted 145 days ago
Your mighty close to the top in my book mrtrim.
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mrtrim
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posted 144 days ago
i consider that a huge statement to come from someone with your skills , very kind indeed ! thank you todd
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shaun
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posted 143 days ago
Great blog there Verne, thanks. I think I’m going to use this. and uhhhh you’re far from the bottom of the heap pal.
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mrtrim
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posted 143 days ago
thank you shaun , and help your self to it . ive never seen any one else do these on 30 deg. before . if you try it i think youll like it . one of these days im going to try one with 4 22.5 deg cuts instead of 3 30 s or 2 45s . it might be interesting ! lol thanks again
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lance
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posted 143 days ago
Hi Verne,
I’m sorry that I have not been able to carefully study your blog that you so generously did to help me. It is great. I can’t wait to have the opportunity to get out in my shop and make my first one. I feel bad that so many other lumbejocks had the time to appreciate your work and thank you before I did. You can be assured that I appreciate all you did and it is you who deserves the thanks not the other way around. When I put the masters teaching to use I will send you a pic of the results. I just hope it looks as good as yours.
Have a great day,
-- Bob Lance, DE
mrtrim
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posted 143 days ago
thanks bob,
i hope it helps you out . youve already thanked me once . and i had fun doing it as well . i consider it a great opportunity to give back to a community that i take so much from ! im looking forward to seeing yours . and if you need further help dont hesitate to ask or call . verne
p s watch the fingers when you brad the corners of the crown , at that angle they can shoot out the backside and get your finger ( i shoot myself about twice a week ! ) lol
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