New beam is in and we are insulating

Looking good Bob!

Lee

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Woohoo!!!

-- Scott - Chico California http://chicowoodnut.home.comcast.net

Bob, I’ve been following your progress with a bit of envy mixed with sympathy. I can appreciate some of your frustrations during this project, but I wish I had the opportunity and resources to design and build my own shop. It’s been great following your blog and I’m looking forward to seeing the finished product. Good for you, guy. Good for you.

-- When you give someone a chance it may well be their last.

Did I hear you say you are going to sheet the interior walls then call an electrician? I hope I didn’t hear that.

Please do the electrical and pipe fitting then sheet the interior walls.You will be glad you did. I wish you the best either way.

Thanks for the post.. P.S. Great looking shop.

-- Kip Northern Illinois ( If you don't know where your goin any road will take you there) George Harrison

Kip thats what I thought as well…...But then thought maybe he is going to surface mount everything.
Looking good Bob!
Jim

-- A duck that brags on his own pond, soon swims alone.

Thanks for the update.

-- Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit.

does your wife still like you?

after 50 years, maybe even 60 years you truly deserve a home away from home Bob and that is looking like a very sweet ol dog house <g>

congrats Bob, ..........sweet

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Thanks agian for the erncouragement all.
As tfor the electrical, it is going on the wall in conduit (EMT).
Flush mounting with the wall surfaces brings with it it’s own set of problems and is quite difficult to add to and re route.
As this is a shop the surface mount electrical will be quite O.K. for me.

Cheers Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

Flush mounting with the wall surfaces brings with it it’s own set of problems and is quite difficult to add to and re route..................please explain?

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It’s about time. Good grief.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

Roman:
Basically I am running conduit around the space at 48” height I can run several lines in a single 3/4” tube to get to a destination and route each line from there to a specific job.
I can run 220 volt and 110 in the same channel and drop each out where I need them without pulling separate circuits around the room. ( I will hear some comments here but I mean within limits)
Should I decide to re route a circuit, I can simply add on to the junction boxes and extend the service without digging in the insulation or removing either benches or wall panels.
BTW my walls are 6” thick and filled to the brim with acoustical insulation. You can’t hear yourself whistle in there. <g>

Am I making any sense?

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

”It’s about time. Good grief.”

Mot, You are right about that.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

Getting better all the time!

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

I told you it would stop raining when the place was watertight! You and your team are making wonderful progress – keep up the good work.

I know its late in the design, but you are not going to get too much insulation on the roof section – I have 400mm in the roof and 150mm in the walls and it still gets cold in the shop. and I am guessing we have simular conditions in the winter months.

The 14” beam is massive – do you get a lot of snow build-up on the roofs in the winter? I am just thinking of my design and maybe I should rethink it?

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Bob,

I am excited for you as I am sure you are. You have moved this along pretty well. I like the idea of running your electrical through conduit. It does add flexibility to your electrical system. It is a minor inconvenience when painting as opposed to running your wire behind the wall sheeting but the versatility it offers more than offsets this.

I am sure that you are ready for the subs to go home so you can have some fun.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

Thanks Gary,

Tony, it rained as we were putting the last of the poly film on last night . A real big dump. I had been nagging my guys all afternoon to help me cover the roof with a tarp as I had only managed to get the felt on so far. We just made it with about 10 minutes to spare.
I hope my insulation will be enough and was assured by the furnace manufacturer that the radiant heater would be more than adequate for the space. This Roxul insulation is quite different from the old standard fiber glass matting. It is a lot denser per mm thickness. I guess a good winter over here will be the proof though.
Whne I designed this shop I planned a full open ceiling and the 24 foot span was what gave us the grief in getting enough timber to support the roof plus perhaps 30-35 cm of snow.
The engineered 14” triple beam was only $400.00 so good insurance at the worst.

Scott,I have this type of electrical in my warehouse and love it. I recommend it to you fellas who may be building a shop in the future. . There is also no major perforations in my poly lining to let air and moisture float back and forth using this method.
I have to admit that I am getting anxious to get finished. It has been a relative draught for me in the shop since I started the project.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

I ran my electrical on top of the finsihed walls like Bob is doing. Having worked in at least a dozen different shops or more and having three of my own I am quite convinced that “all” shops are in a constant state of “evolution” in that what works today will not work tomorrow including electrical. If the wires are behind the walls and changes are made…..........what a PITA where as wiring done through conduit is quick and easy to change, quick and easy to shoot new lines through.

Bob….........how are those roof rafters going to be vented?

I wish I had used the Roxul in mine. It was slightly more money but whats nice about Roxul is that if it gets wet it doesnt loose its R value like the pink stuff. I would go for the really thick poly as well.

looking nice Bob.

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HI Roman:
“Bob……......how are those roof rafters going to be vented?”
My plan here is to completely seal the rafters in poly and felt plus shingles so that it becomes a “slab” on the top of the walls.
My first house was built this way and it was quite warm and comfortable. I drive by it occasionally and see that the original bonded roof is still holding after 40 years.
I will , however, have to provide some ventilation for the main shop area for decent air exchange as the infrared heater wont do that.
I a bit stuck on this one now and would welcome ideas for a controlled draft system on one or both ends.
I suppose I could use a miniature set up like a barn ventilator system.
I insulated the floors, walls , and roof so I should be really tight for air exchange.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

Bob,

I get the surface mount, if you re-route someday. The big disadvantage of doing it that way is cost. Also you can add wires to an in wall system with an electrician tape. But surface mount suits me if it suits you. I mean no hard feelings.

-- Kip Northern Illinois ( If you don't know where your goin any road will take you there) George Harrison

I have a fan running most of the time in my shop winter & summer to circulate the air (mainly for keeping my lumber stable) + opening and closing the door occasionally seems to do the trick – no condensation at all. but there again it is kept between 40 & 50% RH

-- Tony - All things are possible, just some things are more difficult than others! - SKYPE: Heron2005 (http://www.poydatjatuolit.fi)

I’ll have to do that too Tony.
So far the building seems like it will be completely air tight.

Kip, if you only factor in the material costs then EMT can be a bit higher but when you add on the labour it changes quite a bit as EMT goes in faster.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

That progress for you. Looking good.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python