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A new shop in the making #3: moving the gardens

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Every Little job is becoming a little pain in my back.
This morning I new I had to remove 5 five by five square foot garden retaining walls and move them “temporarly” in front of the construction site.
No big deal right.?
It was an exercise in humility as the old timber had begun to rot after 20 years and had also taken on much water. ( I’m figuring about 300 lbs a piece. ( My wife helped by holding the frames upright while I “skooged” the hulks across the lawn one bowel bursting lift at a time.

Here’s where they were at 7:00 am

Here’s where they are now 3:00 pm :

Tomorrow I begin the shoveling and sniveling until the soil is moved and the site is leveled.

Did I memtion the 10 foot apple tree that was moved off the site yesterday.

Man o’ Man what a hobby! <g>

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Scott Bryan

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posted 53 days ago

I would say it looks like the fun is beginning but this is work not fun. The fun will start when the site prep work is done. I don’t enjoy digging by hand- that is one tough job. But this is looking fairly interesting so far and I am sure that the end result will be well worth the effort you are putting into this.

Keep the progress posts coming.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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GaryK

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posted 53 days ago

The “fun” has started!

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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mot

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posted 53 days ago

I’m suddenly glad you declined my offer to help.

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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Kipster

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posted 53 days ago

Your on your way to dream realized. Keep the momentum you’ve created going and before you know it you’ll have a new shop.

Enough Korn, I hope to see more entries on your blog.

Thanks for the post.

-- Kip Northern Illinois ( If you don't know where your goin any road will take you there) George Harrison

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SM

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posted 53 days ago

Hm, 10 ft. of Apple tree. . . .the wood any good?

Bob,
I wanted to ask about your plans for the foundation? Are you going to sink the piers (sonatubes) yourself and do the construction? Are you going to lay gravel, place foam board insulation between the joists, and then cover the bottom with vapour barrier?

Your comment that, “every little job was a pain in the back”, reminded me of how physically gruelling it was to do all the above, after the fact (my crawl space goes from 3 ft to 1 ft.). I thought I’d mention it since it seemed to make a significant difference in the heat retention of the floor and the amount of moisture coming up through. Living in the frost zone you probably already planned for that, but it did not seem to be something the builders remembered to do (and I had it in the contract).

Pardon me if my concerns and comments are superfluous.

There is only one thing worse than building a retaining wall . . .and that is trying to take a one down!

Take care.
SM

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Bob #2

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posted 53 days ago

Sarah:
The tree is a norlund variety and has never produced fruit where I planted It . The crab on th other side of the lot succumbed to old age an my Green thumb so I am hoping it survives the move .
I’ll let you know about the wood on the old crab in short order cause it’s on the block for this week.

The foundation:
I was planning to sit the building on skids to dodge several requirements by the city here.
That means concrete blocks essentially with 8×8 skids under the sub-floor .

That means a vapor barrier on the bottom and foam insulation in the spaces. I’m doing a 10,000 sq foot roof with urea foam so am prevailing on the applier to give me a spray job on the joists before I enclose the floor. It should be about R 20 by the old standard but given the stuff doesn’t breath you can call it R30.

cheers
Bob

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Bob #2

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posted 53 days ago

Mot yer still on standby. <g>

Bob

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TomK

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posted 53 days ago

Looking good so far!

-- North Texas

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Tony

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posted 53 days ago

Bob, The Garden redesign, once its all done, you can sit back and say to yourself, Thats it, done finished, no more, I can sit back and enjoy this in years to come – that is until ”she who must be obeyed” deides things need improving or changing.

The only good thing about my garden expolits, is that the “good lady” has agreed to my modest extension to my workshop (14*5).

Good luck with the entire project, I hope you manage to get the roof on the workshop soon, at least it will be somewhere dry to wait until the rain stops.

-- Tony - All things are possible, just some things are more difficult than others! - SKYPE: Heron2005 (http://www.poydatjatuolit.fi)

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Bob #2

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posted 53 days ago

Tony, I have my fingers crossed that SWMBO will limit here recommendations to asking me to make it a bit bigger! – Fat chance! <g>

Bob

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Karson

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posted 53 days ago

Bob:

It’s looking great. It will be nice to see the crab apple wood. I found that bing cherry has a few purple streaks through the wood.

-- Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com

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Bob #2

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posted 53 days ago

Karson I’m looking forward to getting everything put to bed so I can play with some of this stuff.

Bob

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MsDebbieP

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posted 53 days ago

oh my aching back – and I’m just READING about it

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gator9t9

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posted 53 days ago

Hey BOB …..
You probably already know this ..
Apple wood is GREAT BBQ wood ….so if you dont use it for Woodworking …..use it on that next pulled pork BBQ oh yes …
And CRAB apple is great for handles ….chisel handes and rasp handles good hardwood solid and slight figuring …The NW NATIVES have used it for handles on their awls and carving tools for a long long time …...
Looking forward to seeing more of your shop building exploits …

-- Mike in Bonney Lake " If you are real real real good your whole life, You 'll be buried in a curly maple coffin when you die."

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Bob #2

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posted 52 days ago

Mike, I didn’t know that as a matter of fact.
God, I love this place.
My native buddies tell me nothin! <g>

Deb,having pulled my back out in January and just getting comfortable again I’m going a bit easier this time.
I slept a few nights in a chair. ( fooey on that!)

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Lee A. Jesberger

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posted 51 days ago

Hey Bob;

Well it looks like a job for superman, but inch by inch and all that.

Before you know it you’ll be playing in the new shop!

That’s when the fun really begins.

Don’t over do it, you’re not getting any younger you know. (that’s what my wife told me so I’m passing it on!)

Lee

-- by Lee A. Jesberger http://www.prowoodworkingtips.com http://www.ezee-feed.com

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Bob #2

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posted 51 days ago

Thanks for your encouragement Lee.
I have the lumber for the stick frame lined up for delivery next week and I am going to spend the extra time off this week end to level the site and punch 8 holes below the frost line for sonotubes. I will fill them with pea gravel/cement and cap em with cement. ( good enough for a small shed like this) I figure about 20 years before the tubes break down. I’m up on a hill and the soil below is pure desert sand and bone dry.
Got to get over to the window place and get a couple of decent windows too.
The shed will rest on 4 6×6’s on top of the tubes.
I’ve hired a framing crew and will finish the siding insulation, electrical myself. The gas guy is coming over today to map the line and give me and idea about a zero clearance wall unit.

I’lll be happy when I can see the frame up.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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