Again I am plagued with long work days. I’m on a dinner break with one more work meeting tonight. Given this, I thought I would continue the discussion from yesterday. I’m really longing for some shop time. There are a number of factors that you should consider before you decide to purchase an old plane and once you have purchased it if you should restore it.
Old hand planes can be found be found in a wide variety of places including garage sales, flea markets, antique stores, ebay, craigslist, etc. One of the things that greatly affects the plane’s value (monitary and usefulness) is it’s condition. Before you put any money towards an old plane you should consider the following:
- Flatness of the sole
- Presence of any cracked parts
- completeness
- Condition of the plane’s mouth
- Amount of blade that remains
- Pitting from rust
- Are the parts original to the plane
- Condition of any handles
Before I buy I normally ask the price prior to inspecting the plane. Once I understand the price I carefully inspect the plane considering the factors above. I find that if you spend a lot of effort inspecting the plane before asking the price, the price may be higher.
I evaluate if it is better than a compariable plane I may already own. Also, if the plane is very low in cost, I consider the parts value of the plane. For example, does it have a good rosewood tote and nob? Those can be quite expensive to replace. What about the blade/chipbreaker? etc.
As Paul pointed out in my last post another factor you should consider is the value of the plane to collectors. I only recommend restoration of hand planes if you know that they are commonly available. Restoring a rare plane can greatly decrease it’s value to a collectior. Always check the value of the plane using ebay and prices guides as a guide. If your unsure hold off until you can validate the value of the plane.
Well, I’m out of time for tonight. Time to talk to some people in Asia about learning management systems…
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5 comments so far
David
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posted 471 days ago
Wayne – Thanks for a great blog entry. I am leaving for vacation soon and have plans to be checking the antique malls and junk stores for old planes.
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WayneC
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posted 470 days ago
Your most welcome and thanks for the positive feedback. Happy hunting on your vacation.
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Jeff
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I’ve had really good luck on ebay. The one exception would be a Stanley 112 that I won. The body and sole are in immaculate shape but the screw that tightens the handle is stripped. I have some ideas but have not fixed it. I’ve gotten all my planes there as a matter of fact. The price range has varied and been commensurate with the type of plane and shape it was in. I have a couple of #4s (one worker and one in very nice shape); a great #8 (I got it really cheap); a #5 that needed no tuning other than the blade being honed; #90 that was in good shape.
Just be sure you ask many questions before bidding, shop from people who can take apporpriate photos, and don’t get carried away in the bidding process. Either bid early with your maximum bid or set up notifications for auctions that are ending in like six hours or less. That is when all the activity will take place.
-- Jeff, St. Paul, MN
Matt
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posted 470 days ago
Great insight Wayne. When I bought my first used hand plane, still a favorite in my shop by the way. I bought another one with it, luckily at least one of them was worth the money. Your tips are greatly appreciated and in hindsight make total sense. Flea market season is just around the corner here in Michigan so I think I might put together my Wayne pack and head out for a good plane hunt.
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WayneC
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posted 470 days ago
Good advise Jeff and thanks Matt. I’m still about 7 or 8 podcasts behind Matt. And one or two on the woodwhisper’s as well. I’m sure I will be caught up by the time I get to Houston on Monday.
-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov