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Tool Reviews #1: Veritas Large Shoulder Plane

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Every now and then you stumble upon a tool that makes you wonder how you ever got by without it. For me, that was the shoulder plane. My present workbench base project was going to require 28 large mortise and tenon joints, and practice joints showed me that fitting was going to be difficult. I had tried a combination of block plane and chisel to clean up the tenon cheeks and shoulders, but the intersection of the shoulder and cheek kept causing me problems. The shoulder plane seemed like the best solution. After considerable deliberation, I settled on the Veritas large shoulder plane from Lee Valley. I wasn’t disappointed.

Veritas Large Shoulder Plane

Except for final honing, mine was really ready to go right out of the box. The sole was flat, the sides were square, and they even lap the back of the blade! I chose the O1 blade instead of the A2 since I use oilstones to sharpen and didn’t want to work myself to death. I DO have to sharpen more often, but that’s no big deal with this plane—more on that in a minute.

It’s a strange looking contraption compared to a Preston-style like the Lie-Nielson or Clifton, but there’s method in their madness. The boxy blade lever nestles right into your palm in the perfect position, and my middle finger drops automatically into the round hole when holding the plane vertically for cheek cuts:

Shoulder plane in action

By the way, be sure to remove your finger from the hole when making shoulder cuts with the hand-side up, or you’ll get a nasty pinch when your digit collides with the cheek!

The front knob can be repositioned into a threaded hole on either side of the body, where it projects at an angle. This has its uses, but I found repositioning to be more trouble than it was worth when switching back and forth between cheek and shoulder. Besides, the front of the plane is easy to hold as is when laying on its side. The rear knob pivots from side to side, and is locked in place by screwing it down. This feature really shows Veritas’ quality machining. When the knob is loosened, it doesn’t flop. Instead, some sort of internal friction bushing partially resists the motion, giving repositioning a solid “wiping” feel. My favorite way to use this is to not tighten the knob down completely, but leave a little play. This way, the knob can “self-adjust” slightly as my hand position changes during use.

The plane weighs almost four pounds, but I prefer the mass of a heavier plane. To me, this improves authority with end-grain cuts, and reduces effort on cross-grain. The 1 1/4” wide cutter is almost a match for most low-angle block planes. The iron is bedded at 15 degrees which, with the 25 degree blade bevel, gives an effective cutting angle of 40 degrees. The mouth adjustment consists of an adjustment screw and a separate locking screw. This allows the nose to be removed and replaced without losing the mouth setting, giving you a quick chisel plane option if needed.

The depth adjustment mechanism is smooth, but with some backlash. Veritas points out in their well-written manual that you should take up the slack after blade retraction by making you final turn forward (just like almost every other metal plane). They also give you a neat tip for fine depth adjustment: Changing tension on the cap lever will cause a minor deflection of the plane body, giving you a small degree depth adjustment. This is particularly handy when you run into those minor variations in the wood, or want to lighten up for one last pass—a slight tweak of the locking knob generally does the trick.

These are all neat features, but I saved the best for last. The real deal-cincher for me was the set screws on either side of the body. These can be seen in the first picture above on either side of the finger hole. The screws allow you to accurately set the position of the blade relative to the side of the plane. It took a bit of fiddling to get this right, as the rear screw will change the angle of the blade, knocking it out of square with the body. The two must be adjusted in concert to correctly set the angle and reveal of the blade. Once you’ve got it right, the two screws on the other side are brought into contact and then backed off just a hair (“Yoost a har,” as an old Swedish carpenter I knew used to say). This allows enough slack for depth adjustment, but maintains blade alignment.

Yes, I know you can align any plane, but how many keep alignment when you take the blade out? With this one, you can remove the blade, sharpen, and drop it back into place while keeping that perfect setup you had to start with. I can’t count the number of times in the past where I kept on planing with a dulling blade rather than lose my settings. As for durability of the O1 blade, I trimmed all 56 of the short tenon cheeks for my workbench base without needing to sharpen. I then popped the blade out, touched up the micro-bevel, and was ready to go on the side cheeks with exactly the same set-up. Sweet!

All in all, I’ve been very pleased with this plane. In fact, if I ever decide I need a smaller one, I’ll definitely buy its little brother, the medium shoulder plane. Veritas is really on to something with these tools.

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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posted 415 days ago

Great review GD….I need to work on getting some planes. This is one I’ve looked at. So many tools…so little money! Gotta make sure I get maximum bang for the buck.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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WayneC

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posted 415 days ago

This post is making me think. I was considering the LN version of this plane. I will have to recalibrate.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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mot

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posted 415 days ago

I’ve been trying to find a reason to buy one of these planes. I think they are just amazing. Thanks…just when I thought I was done buying hand tools for the summer. Nice review!

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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MsDebbieP

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posted 415 days ago

what a great review. I’ve never used a plane but you sure do make this one sound like it’s a good one to own.

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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Douglas Bordner

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posted 415 days ago

The medium shoulder plane is a joy to use as well. I have only Stanley in my bench (Bailey #4, 5 & 7) and block plane selections. If I won the lotto, I’d replace them with Veritas bench, block or bevel-up planes. Everything they innovate has a touch of genius.
The latest thing I have gotten from them (it was less than 5 bucks, right in the price range this summer), was a doo-hickey that fits on a tape measure with slots and rare earth magnets allowing no guess measurements of diagonals when gluing up carcases, and it has a feature that lets you post the end of the tape on a nail (again with no guess or fiddle measuring) so one person can take accurate and long measurements.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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MsDebbieP

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posted 415 days ago

gotta love doo-hickeys!!!!

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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Bob Babcock

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posted 414 days ago

I think the actual technical term for those is thing-a-ma-bob.

-- Bob, Carver Massachusetts, Sawdust Maker http://www.capecodbaychallenge.org

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MsDebbieP

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posted 414 days ago

says “Bob” :)

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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woodspar

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posted 414 days ago

Thanks for this tool review, Robert. I have a block plane and a smoothing plane, and a shoulder plane would round out the set.

-- John

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Dorje

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posted 412 days ago

Just recieved the LV medium shoulder plane this week – can’t wait to actually use it!

Robert – I’m really enjoying catching up on your bench progress blog series! It’s such a great process that you’ve documented here!

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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Douglas Bordner

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posted 412 days ago

The doo-hickey-ma-bob (casting oil on the roiling waters) I referred to is featured here http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=56766&cat=1,42936
and it’s only 3.95. Veritas hits the mark again!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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TheGravedigger

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posted 411 days ago

The more I use this thing, the better I like it. The subtle depth adjustment by way of the lever tension wheel is really handy for trimming cheeks and shoulders when you often need just a touch of change.

The only fault I find is that the blade adjustment knob tends to back off during use. I think this comes from the way the heel of my right hand tends to brush it when using it sole-down (as opposed to on its side). l guess every design has its quirks—I just have to keep checking it as I plane.

Dorje- This bench is definitely a learning experience for me. There are certainly better ways to build a bench, but I wanted to see what could be done with basic dimension lumber. Joinery on this scale is certainly different than what I’m used to.

Let us know how the medium version works out. Who knows? I may need a smaller version somewhere down the road.

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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Dorje

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posted 411 days ago

Yeah – we could do that cyber tool share like mot and David! Have you seen that?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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TheGravedigger

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posted 411 days ago

No. I must have missed it. How does it work?

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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WayneC

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posted 411 days ago

Here is a link to it…

http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/David/blog/1227

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Dorje

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posted 411 days ago

Thanks Wayne! What do you think Robert?

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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TheGravedigger

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posted 410 days ago

<chuckle> You guys had me going! Nice piece of work! Someone says “borrow tools” and my reaction is “Ehhh…”.

Shucks, my wife saw the free Adirondack Chair plans I downloaded and said, “I think I’d like to try building that!” (No woodworking experience, mind you), and my reaction was, “Ehhh…sure! I’ll help you get started.”

The whole time I’m thinking, “Just keep your cotton-pickins off my chisels and PLANES!”

And the people said AMEN?

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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WayneC

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posted 410 days ago

I’m getting to the point I cringe when my wife goes near the tools. I have purchased her some tools of her own, but I still find tools strung all over the house. At least I can get comfort from the fact that is capable of using them.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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MsDebbieP

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posted 409 days ago

lol I’m laughing, laughing, laughing

-- "Functional WoodArt" by Debbie, Canada (http://www.execulink.com/~yohan)

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TheGravedigger

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posted 409 days ago

My pet shop nightmare is coming in to see my wife using one of my chisels like a cold chisel. (Huh?? What’s the difference?)

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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Chris

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posted 397 days ago

Digger,

Here’s my $20 Question…. If you did not already own the large shoulder plane; Would you purchase the Large before the Medium?

-- Chris

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TheGravedigger

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posted 396 days ago

Chris,

“I” would. I find it perfect for my present work. Of course, I’m building a workbench base with very large tenons to trim. However, the plane also excels at general-purpose end-grain work, and is almost as wide as a Stanley low-angle block plane. There may come a time on smaller projects where the medium would be better, but I’ll have to wait and see. The thing is that this baby fits the hand so well that control is never a problem for me. I believe this will give it the capability for fairly delicate work, but I’ll have to wait and see. I could always add the medium later, but the large would still be MY first choice.

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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Douglas Bordner

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posted 396 days ago

Robert,
Guess I need to drink a bit more coffee this Saturday morning. I was re-reading you comments above, “My pet shop nightmare…”, and had the mental image of all the cages open; budgies being pursued by cats, cats by dogs, guinea pigs by ferrets, pet accidents in the aisles. Took a moment to re-focus.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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WayneC

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posted 396 days ago

In my house the birds do the chasing…...

Pheobe our Greenwing Macaw.

Although she does a pretty good job as a scrub plane.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Douglas Bordner

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posted 396 days ago

Wow, Wayne! I hope that bird isn’t ill-tempered!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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WayneC

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posted 396 days ago

Only towards the dogs…. She is normally all kisses. Although it is a bit un-nerving when she sticks her tongue in your ear. Kinda like a dry cats tongue.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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posted 396 days ago

Scrub plane my foot! She could hollow bowls with that beak!

-- Robert from Raymond, MS. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence is therefore not a practice, but a habit." - Aristotle

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