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Blog entry by RonPage posted 9 days ago 599 reads 0 times favorited 30 comments Add to Favorites

After spending a few weeks here, I have to admit I don’t quite get it. This is supposed to be a woodworking forum where people exchange ideas, information and knowledge, right?

I posted a question regarding cabinet hinge placement: 114 reads and two responses that basically answered nothing. Someone else posted the question as to what we have for breakfast: 1675 reads and 164 responses.

Lots of people post pictures of their projects and lots of other people comment as to how well they were done. Lots of others seem to like visiting. Is that about it?

-- Ron, Bakersfield, CA. Measure twice, cut twice anyway.

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RonPage

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roman

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posted 9 days ago

I posted my answer on your question

there are different catagories which answer and or show different questions

-- http://www.furnituremann.ca/

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Eric

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posted 9 days ago

You know, Ron, sometimes the planets aren’t aligned just right and a question just slips through the cracks. I’d advise you to try posting your question over in the forums, which is more of an information-sharing kind of place, as opposed to your personal blog.

I’ve had that happen too, where the answer I hoped for never came. However, please don’t base your impression of LumberJocks based on that one experience.

But my experience with LumberJocks is that yes, the jocks give you a lot of encouragement in your journey. At the same time, many jocks are committed to helping people out and giving tips or criticism when requested.

-- Eric at http://adventuresinwoodworking.com

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mrtrim

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posted 9 days ago

since you posted a comment on your hinge post that brought it back to the top of the pulse . i read it and made my comment . sometimes a post can get buried 3 or 4 pages deep in the pulse where a lot of people dont get the time to go back to . if this happens to your post make a comment and it will bring it back to the top . the breakfast post if you check the date has probably been going on for a couple months which is why it has so many comments . no matter what you post you will always get many more reads than comments always ! lastly , i dont eat breakfast nor care what anyone else eats for breakfast which is why i had time to read both your posts and comment on them ! now i must go to work . dont get dicouraged my friend , this really is the best woodworking forum on the net !

-- if you aint the lead dog the scenery never changes

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jjohn

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posted 9 days ago

I must agree with mrtrim. Since I have been a member I have had many more looks than comments. I try to answer as many blogs and such as I can, but they come through the listing so quickly that many pass me by between visits. Also remember that many here are new wood workers and might not know the answer to the question. The forum is the correct place to post a question. It seems to move a little slower than the blog area. So it stays around longer.
Hope this helps.
Jim

-- JJohn

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Dadoo

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posted 9 days ago

A lot of times I look only because the advice I have was already posted. If I had any advice that is.

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

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SteveKorz

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posted 9 days ago

Yup, MrTrim, jjohn and Dadoo have got it… sometimes it gets buried because the site is so massive… even if I find it, if someone has answered it (what I would have typed or similar), then I’ll move on. If you feel like you need an answer, then reply to your own topic during the morning or the evening (when the most jocks seem to be on), and it will bring it to the top of the pulse in order to bring it back before the crowd.

Here's the link to Ron's question, should anyone want to go there...

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17)

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odie

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posted 9 days ago

That’s not the reason I missed it …. I was intimidated by your dashingly good looks you hunk. OK just missed it.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke".

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OutPutter

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posted 9 days ago

Ron,

I’m pretty sure now that you only addressed your question to the experts in a light hearted fashion. But, if I had read your question the first time around, I, being another rookie, would not have answered because you asked for expert opinions. Now, I’m going to follow the link SteveKorz (not you, hmmm, that’s interesting) provided and answer your question anyway. Don’t give up on us yet, we’re just busy sometimes too.

-- Jim

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GaryK

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posted 9 days ago

Maybe there isn’t any “correct” answer for your question, so people hesitate to answer for fear of being wrong
and looking foolish.

Looks at Ryans project. 83233 views and only 108 connents. That’s only 1 comment per 770 views.

Click for details

The post about breakfast, is mainly a joke that people are playing along with.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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Peter O

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posted 9 days ago

I can’t think of a single friend or acquaintance with whom I am always serious or only discuss a single topic. Yes, I come here because it is a group of woodworkers and I like to talk shop, but I certainly expect other topics, joking, and general visiting as well. If I might paraphrase … all wood and no play makes LJ a dull site.

One thing I like about the people on this site is that most are modest enough not to try to bluff an answer. Maybe if the question asked for an opinion (“how do you do it”) instead of asking for a rule (“is there a formula”), more people would chime in.

To add to GaryK’s recent post, Ryan’s project broke the rules! You can’t steam bend softwoods.

-- What exactly is "The Move" and who are you calling a "Quirky Jerk"? -- http://www.north40custom.com

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Brad_Nailor

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posted 9 days ago

That post about breakfast is a joke? Oh, man, thats it I’m done with this site…

-- Brad Nailor is just my handle..my Name is David, feel free to use it!

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pommy

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posted 9 days ago

the best place i found to ask a question is in the coffee lounge as most people visit the most
but good luck sorting your hinges out

-- cut it saw it scrap it

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RonPage

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posted 9 days ago

Hi, everyone. Thanks for all the great feedback!

Apparently I posted my question in the wrong area. I’m fairly new here and didn’t realize there are several areas in which to post.

This post wasn’t meant to be a whining session on my part. I just didn’t understand why a breakfast question on a woodworking site would garner more interest than a woodworking question.

Thanks for all the advice!

This morning’s breakfast was a pot of coffee and half a pack of cigarettes :)

-- Ron, Bakersfield, CA. Measure twice, cut twice anyway.

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jjohn

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posted 9 days ago

How that we have this settled. GO PUT SOME CLOTHES ON !!! You’r making most of us look bad.

-- JJohn

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mrtrim

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posted 9 days ago

and while your at it take some hair off ! same reason , lol

-- if you aint the lead dog the scenery never changes

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odie

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posted 9 days ago

Rule #1. Only be serious if you have to

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke".

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DAN

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posted 9 days ago

Photobucket

-- Hey ! I was born in IOWA .... don't blame me

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mrtrim

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posted 9 days ago

Photobucket

-- if you aint the lead dog the scenery never changes

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SteveKorz

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posted 9 days ago


lol…. (we’re all really here just to have fun)

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17)

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Karson

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posted 8 days ago

Reads are the name of the game. Comments come from people that are interested. But, I don’t think you will ever find more comments than there are reads.

-- Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com

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grovemadman

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posted 8 days ago

Here’s your comment Mr. Trim: Nice duck… Now back away from the duck slowly!

-- --Chuck

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RonPage

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posted 8 days ago

DUCK!!!

-- Ron, Bakersfield, CA. Measure twice, cut twice anyway.

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mrtrim

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posted 8 days ago

well ron i hope you now have a little better understanding of the site ! ill stick to my original post its the best wood working site on the net ! welcome and hang out youll learn to like it im sure .

-- if you aint the lead dog the scenery never changes

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Bob #2

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posted 8 days ago

I went back and read your question before I answered your most recent question.

I probably would not have responded either and I didn’t. ( Frankly it’s rhetorical in nature)

There is a premise that everyone who signs on here is a vast repository of woodworking information just waiting for somebody to ask .

..And that this is the information hot line .

That is not true.

Most of us are amateurs and have little more than one project of a kind under our belts.
On the other hand, recently the forum has been almost over run with new members all seeking information and almost without exception, no camera or drawing skills to help with question and or answers.

I’m going to be doing some framing shortly and although I have experience with this I still went out today and bought a book to brush up on the fine points.

So here’s the short version:

Do a Google on your topic.
Read upon your topic in a magazine and or a book.
If you’re still stuck, do a picture of your problems and I’ll bet someone will at least try to answer you.

I agree with you that this place has turned into a “social event” but I am not personally going to wade through hundreds or scribblings just to respond to someone who never even bothers to acknowledge my answer.
I don’t mean you, I just mean the prigishness of the majority of questioners.

Sorry for the diatribe but I am getting tapped out.

Bob

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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RonPage

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posted 8 days ago

Bob,

Thank you for the response.

Actually, I Googled myself silly looking for an answer and found nothing.

In the past, I’ve always eyeballed them and put them where I thought they looked balanced. I usually put the bottom hinge a little farther from the edge than the top one so as to give it a little visual weight.

I remember an art teacher telling me that when you cut a mat for a picture frame, it should be wider at the bottom, otherwise the picture wiil look top heavy and appear as though it’s sliding out of the frame.

I apply the same principal but wasn’t sure if there was a Golden Rectangle rule that applied.

Thanks to all who’ve responded!

-- Ron, Bakersfield, CA. Measure twice, cut twice anyway.

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Sawdust2

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posted 8 days ago

Standard mat widths are 2” top and sides, 2 1/4”’ bottom.

Don’t get unhinged.

You should have joined back when there were only about 200 on this site. Now there is just TOO much to deal with.

Lee

-- No piece is cut too short. It was meant for a smaller project.

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brianinpa

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posted 8 days ago

Ron,

I think you have answered your own question: “I’ve always eyeballed them and put them where I thought they looked balanced.”

In the end isn’t that all that is needed/wanted – something that looks good? If it looks good to you, then you can be happy with it and proud of it no matter where the hinges are. Put them where ever you think they look right for the project you are working on.

As far as the site is concerned: timing is everything.

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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USCJeff

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posted 6 days ago

Funny thread. Yeah, there are a lot of “pat on the back” posts regarding projects. I’ve posted several dozen forum topics and have gotten various results. I will say that sometimes the title is everything. It shouldn’t be, but it’s kind of like the cover art on a book. It means nothing as far as the content, but it sells the material.

The other thing is that the site has started to get very large. It is becoming very much like Woodnet or Sawmill Creek in that the content can be overwhelming. This means things get missed. The pulse page is great though. Add a comment to your forum to bump it to the top so that others can see it again. I typically only look at the most recent stuff and miss things between visits.

-- Jeff, South Carolina

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TomK

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posted 5 days ago

It hinges on what you had for breakfast.

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RobS

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posted 5 days ago

What?! A package of coffee and half a pot cigarette? Is that what you said you had for breakfast 3 days ago, Ron? Just kidding, glad you got some hinge responses.

-- Rob (A) Waxahachie,TX

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