Well, I have been wanting a Bailey pattern 4 1/2 smoother for sometime now, but I am frugal, no darn it, I’m just plain cheap. I have been watching eBay and just not up for spending $30 to $50 bucks plus shipping. So inspired by WayneC and David’s blogs on plane rehabilitation, I decided to bid on an ugly duckling user plane, and after consulting with Thos. Angle decided to escape the blood and gore and take a shot at a Sargent model 410.
I finally got a hunk of metal I could afford (Christmas is coming after all). This baby should be here in a week or so.
Described as:
IT DOES NEED CLEANING, BUT IT IS STILL IN USABLE OR DISPLABALE CONDITION. OR CAN BE USED FOR PARTS.
BOTH WOOD HANDLES DO NOT HAVE ANY CRACKS.
IT IS 10” LONG & 2 5/8” WIDE. IT HAS A 2” BLADE.
Inspires confidence, doesn’t it? Oh what the heck, I spent this much for red-lacquer replacement handles for an old #5. If the whole experiment goes south, at least I can get a real tote and knob for old Jack.
Hopefully, with a bit of work it will look as nice as David's Parkerized Plane and with a new iron from Hock it will slice some beautiful thin curls.
Hope springs eternal (or is it “There’s a sucker born every minute”)…
Stay tuned.
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9 comments so far
cajunpen
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posted 290 days ago
I don’t know for sure if it’s a Slippery Slope or Sharp Cliff, but several of us Jocks (me included) have taken the plunge into these hand planes. I have 3 right now – all Stanley – a Block, a low angle Block and a #5. I am also looking for a #4 or #4 1/2. I have played with them a little and can now understand why the attraction – the finish that you can obtain is incredible. So I guess I’ve found yet another outlet for my money.
-- Bill - "Suit yourself and let the rest be pleased." http://www.cajunpen.com/
Douglas Bordner
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posted 290 days ago
Those outlets just keep on coming faster than the paychecks.
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MsDebbieP
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posted 290 days ago
slippery slope – and sliding fast, dragging others along for the ride!
I think we need a new group (besides the boxhounds) – slippery slope riders! :)
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Thos. Angle
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posted 290 days ago
Congrats, Douglas, that’s a lot less than I paid for my 4 1/2. If you strip the tote and knob you will probably find very nice Rosewood. You might want to consider a Lie-Nielsen iron. I think they are thicker and stiffer. In one of these big smoothers I think they might work better even than the Hock. The Sargents I have are every bit as good as my Baileys.
-- Thos. Angle, Owyhee Design, Oregon
Zuki
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posted 290 days ago
Geeze . . . you paid more for shipping Doug than you actually paid for the hunk of metal. Funny how that happens .
Im gonna keep a close eye on this blog to see houw it turns out.
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David
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posted 290 days ago
Douglas -
Lots of folks on that slippery slope! Congratulations on a great find – it will be fun to follow your progress with this plane. I agree with Thos. those will be a nice looking tote & knob when cleaned up.
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Lee A. Jesberger
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posted 290 days ago
You might be a lumberjock if…
I can’t believe you guy’s get carried away with thin shavings curling out of a restored plane!
That could never happen to me!
OOOH, THIN CURLY SHAVINGS! LOL
Lee
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Max
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posted 290 days ago
Well Douglas I am on that same slope. I am waiting for a Stanley 140 skew plane to arrive myself. It needs cleaning and tuning also…... oh and a side plate screw which Wayne was nice enough to point me in the direction to get a replacement….
-- Max "Desperado", Salt Lake City, UT
Dorje
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posted 289 days ago
Good luck on this venture!
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA