After finishing the mockup of the face vise, I was now ready to do it for real. I started by gluing up a couple piece of oak for the main chop. You saw me use my new planer sled to mill the two large faces flat. I used the mockup to locate and cut the 2 main holes for the screws.
I used a regular hole saw on my drill press to cut the holes. It was slow going through the hard oak, but I made it through.
Next I wanted to dress up and round over the ends of the chop. I layout a small reveal and a round over on the front edges.
To cut the shoulder of the reveal, I used my table saw set to about 1/8” deep.
To cut the round over, I used my band saw. It worked pretty well.
With one of my new Gramercy rasps and some sandpaper, the round over cleaned up really nice. The Gramercy rasps work really well, they cut fast and clean. My previous experience with rasps had been with old or cheap brands. They produced surfaces that were rough and had a lot of tearing. It was a pleasure working these rasps and seeing how a rasp should work.
I also wanted to dress up, what I have been calling the washers.
I used a similar layout as I did with the chop, but I used a two shoulders. I used the table saw and band saw to rough these out too. They were also cleaned up with a rasp and sandpaper.
The nuts were then attached to backs of the washers. Then attached to the bench.
I did end up using through bolts on the nuts and washers. They are definitely more stable with this set up.
When the screws pass through the nuts, they are about 1” from bottom surface of the bench top. The screws do need some kind of support. You can simply put a flat shim between the bench top and the screws. I decided to add a small grove to my shims. To do this I took a board and cut a bunch of partial circles with a hole saw that matched the diameter of my screws.
Then I cut them into pieces and glued them together to make a piece about 12” long.
After the glue set up, I cut the shims down to size.
I thought the shims should have some kind of lubricant on them. I melted some paraffin wax and brushed it on the shims, to act as my lubricant.
Here’s how they look after they were installed
On a suggestion from Dorje, I decided to recess the garters for the screws. I just cut a template in a scrap piece of MDF. I then ran my router inside the template, with collar attached to it. I used a 3/8” spiral cut bit, that had a flat bottom on it. It produced a nice clean recess.
After that I was pretty much done.
I have just a little bit of tweaking I have to do. The screws aren’t quite as smooth as I’d like them to be. The mockup operated a little smoother. I just need to tweak the alignment just a little. I was also a little tighter when I set up this final version of the vise. The chop can’t be racked as much the mockup did. I don’t see this as an issue, I really don’t have a need for that feature. If I ever feel I need that option, I can take the chop off and open up the holes a little bit.
The last steps for the bench will be, one last light surfacing of the top. Drill a couple holes in the top and maybe the legs, for my holdfasts. Then apply a light finish on the bench. All the exciting stuff is done now ☺.









































20 comments so far
Al Navas
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posted 133 days ago
Mike,
Terrific! There is a lot to learn, just from this final vise assembly. Thanks!
-- Al Navas, St Joseph, MO, http://sandal-woodsblog.com
blackcherry
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posted 133 days ago
Wow, now that more than a posting…great deep in skill and display…many thanks…Blkcherry
teenagewoodworker
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posted 133 days ago
that is a nice vice. i liked the little side detail that you did on the edge to. thanks for the post.
GaryK
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posted 132 days ago
That is a fantastic job! Well done!
-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.
Dorje
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posted 132 days ago
Wow! That’s awesome! A real piece of work (in a good way ;) ) Your jointer looks like a little baby plane when viewed with that chop!
The roundovers came out great!
That was an interesting idea to add the coved shims. How did you decide that that was necessary? Did Chris Schwarz use flat shims on his?
-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA
jcees
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posted 132 days ago
Schweeeeet! Great job, Mike. Makes me wanna pick up the pace on my own bench. Hey, what are the garters made from? Did the screwmaker supply them or did you have to fabricate them?
always,
J.C.
-- "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -- Albert Einstein
Mark Mazzo
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posted 132 days ago
Mike,
Great job on the bench and vices. Ingenious ides on the support for the bench screws! That really looks to be a very functional bench design.
-- Mark, Webster New York, Visit my website at http://thecraftsmanspath.com
SPalm
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posted 132 days ago
Man, you do nice work. Thanks for the inspiration. I love a bench blog.
-- Stevethepeeve -- I'm no rocket surgeon
Mike Lingenfelter
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posted 132 days ago
Thanks everyone, you are all very kind.
Dorje – I even had to add shims to the twin-screw Veritas vise I had. I think the guy I bought the screws also recommended it. The screws are pretty long and there is some needed “slop” built in. This requires some kind of support to help them operate smoothly.
J.C. – the garters came with the screws. They look like large steel washers. I may try to dress them up a bit, but I haven’t figured out what I want to do with them yet.
-- Mike - http://inquisitivewoodworker.blogspot.com/
Mark Shymanski
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posted 131 days ago
I am in awe, what a great bench and great craftsmanship. The detail of the blog is incredible, well done all around…I wanna be as skilled as you when I grow up :-)
-- ....next big purchase is wood for the next project, Mark
jcees
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posted 131 days ago
Mike, you could drop by your nearest outdoor sporting goods store or gunshop and pick up a bottle of Birchwood-Casey Blueing or Plum Brown solution. Follow the directions and either one will color the steel garters and impart a bit of rust preventative as well.
always,
J.C.
-- "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -- Albert Einstein
Mike Lingenfelter
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posted 131 days ago
Thanks J.C., Blueing or Plum Brown sounds like a great idea. I hadn’t heard of Plum Brown before, I might have to try this out on a couple test pieces.
-- Mike - http://inquisitivewoodworker.blogspot.com/
Damian Penney
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posted 130 days ago
Very nice Mike, the bench looks great. Hope I finish mine one of these days!
-- I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it. - Pablo Picasso
johnjoiner
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posted 129 days ago
That looks nice Mike.
I hadn’t thought about the wooden screws sagging. I suppose it doesn’t matter as long as you can get the work piece in there and tighten down the screws.
It’s been a few months since I read Schwarz’s book – does he address that in his plan? How far out can you unscrew your vise before it starts to sag noticeably?
-- johnjoiner
Mike Lingenfelter
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posted 129 days ago
I had the same issue with my twin-screw Veritas vise, it’s not just the wooden screws. Most metal vises have support rods built in, to help with sag.
I don’t think it was in the book, but in an article Chris wrote about the Holtzapffel Workbench. If you bought the book from Chris, he was given out a CD with it that had the article on it. I’d have to look around, but I think the article is available on-line. You start to feel it pretty quick. It still works, but if lift up on the chop just a little, they turn much easier.
-- Mike - http://inquisitivewoodworker.blogspot.com/
Grumpy
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posted 129 days ago
Excellent blog Mike.
-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python
skydog
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posted 109 days ago
I am in the process of building a version of the Chris Schwartz “Roubo” bench. The base is nearly done using doug fir from the blue store. Still deciding, and shopping, for the material for the top. I also wish SYP was available where I live. My comments on your project (which I only saw for the first time yesterday – causing me to join this forum): You found much better looking stock than I did, and you do a much nicer job of working it than I do! Beautiful job all the way around.
Mike Lingenfelter
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posted 109 days ago
Thanks Skydog and welcome to the best woodworking site on the Internet.
When it comes to working with “construction” grade Doug Fir, like I did, it’s best to get the widest boards you can find. Most of mine were 2×12. These generally have fewer knots and you have a little more more room to cut around the knots. I also planned my cuts so that knots would be on one edge of the board. I the put the knots on the underside of top. The underside of my the bench looks pretty bad when it comes to knots. I have good 1” or more of knot free wood, on the top, which will allow me to resurface the top over time.
For those of you waiting for my final installment, it should be coming soon. I’ve been a little busy over the last few weekends. My company shuts down for the entire week before July 4 :). So most of that time will be spent in the shop!! I can’t wait for this week to end!
-- Mike - http://inquisitivewoodworker.blogspot.com/
Texasgaloot
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posted 78 days ago
Hey Mike—
Plum brown is what we/they often finish period muzzleloaders (flintlocks, etc.) with. Jcees has a great suggestion there.
I’m absorbing your blog with anticipation of the day that I get to start my bench. Very cool, and a first-rate blog!
-- There's no tool like an old tool...
Mike Lingenfelter
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posted 78 days ago
I haven’t gotten the Plumb Brown yet, but I want to give it a try. I’m trying to find time finish the face vise. I’m still having some issues getting to move smoothly, but I think I have figured out a solution. I hope to have some time this weekend to finish it up. I have a couple projects that are waiting for me to finish this bench!
-- Mike - http://inquisitivewoodworker.blogspot.com/