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Thorsen Table Challenge #7: Going for the Top !! Also pegging joints info.

Blog entry by Dick, & Barb Cain posted 535 days ago 617 reads 0 times favorited 33 comments Add to Favorites
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The last couple of days, I’ve been working on the tabletop. I mortised out the breadboards, & cut the tenons.

I kind of fell for the cloud lift theme, so I incorporated into the top. You might want to call this a sideways cloud lift.

I decided to try something from the latest issue of Fine Woodworking, They call it draw bored pegging on the breadboards. This is something I've never tried before, so we'll see what happens.

Check out my latest Video. Mortising Breadboards></td></tr><tr><td>Mortising, & Sanding Breadboard<wbr></wbr>s</td></tr></table> I hope you don't get _*Bored*_ with it.

_If you like the music on my Video, you can download it free "here":http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/hb_musical_instruments/article/0,2033,DIY_13881_2808164,00.html.._

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MsDebbieP

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posted 535 days ago

that sure is a beautiful top!! love the little ditties on the sides.

I’m looking forward to seeing your video

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posted 535 days ago

Wow Dick, that is beautiful, long way from rustic, you really did a great job. I really like your placement of the buttons. I read an article on draw bored jointery, it’s kind of a lost art to make a very strong mortise. mike

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posted 535 days ago

You got sneaky on us Dick…. Beautiful accent, nice doweling… could be a winner.

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posted 535 days ago

Dick you’ve made another winner here. This is a wonderful piece of “tabletop” art. Video is playing right now…gotta go. Fantastic!

-- Carpe Lignum - Seize The Wood,

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fred

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posted 535 days ago

Dick,

Your Thorsen table project is coming along very well. I like what you have done for the table top. Also, the video was great and the background music really fit.

Good luck on the rest of the project. I can’t wait to see more results.

-- Fred Childs, Pasadena, CA - - - Law of the Workshop: Any tool, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible corner.

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MsDebbieP

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posted 535 days ago

the video is great. (and you are so talented—computer stuff AND woodworking!)

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posted 535 days ago

you stole my cloud lifts! I was wondering where they went ;)

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posted 535 days ago

We had a Cloud burst the other evening. LOL

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posted 535 days ago

Great Dick. Nice looking, but stealing Scott’s Cloud lifts probably is a disqualification. What do you think Dennis.

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woodspar

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posted 535 days ago

Great work Dick, like Mike says, a long way from Rustic. I liked the article on pegs; like to try it sometime.

-- John

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posted 535 days ago

Hi Dick;
—-glad to see that you are using drawpinning or drawboring there in the breadboard of those mortise and tenons and makes for a tight fit, while also allowing for wood movement. Drawboring also works great if the wood is not dry, (green) and if the joint is not as complete….perfect. Timber framers make use of this one also in the mortise and tenons on the frames, girts and braces….which makes for a very tight joint as the peg acts like a wedge for drawing the wood together. I guess one might even call this a ‘come-along’ effect. Out of curiosity, how much did you offset those holes?

Enjoyed your video and great table you have coming along here!

GODSPEED,
Frank

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posted 535 days ago

Thank you All.
Frank: I haven’t quite gotten to the pegging yet, but I plan on a 1/32” offset.

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posted 535 days ago

Dick: I bought some tapered steel (drive rods – I’m not sure what they are called) But they were in a set of chisles and other driving tools to remove bushings etc.

You lightly drive them in to get a little taper on the hole to get your wooden peg an easier start.

-- Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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posted 534 days ago

Karson: I think they’re called drift pins. I’ve used them in metalwork., but haven’t seen them for wood.
I looked up drift pins, & came up with this interesting PDF, on pinning box joints.

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posted 534 days ago

One of the issues of Woodworking Magazine (Issue 4, Autumn 2005, if you want me to be exact) had an article in it about making your own drawboring pins. Though I never got around to making one, the article was certainly interesting and seemed to be highly informative.

If you’re interested in drawboring, there was a technique article in that same issue. I think it was used for building the classic Roubo Workbench.

Great issue. Come to think of it, they’re all great, really…

-- Ethan, http://www.merganserwoodworks.com, http://greystonegreen.blogspot.com/

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posted 534 days ago

Thanks Ethan,
I had been looking at the same article this morning. I had to do a search with your link, so try this.

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Red Headed Merganser

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posted 534 days ago

Actually, Dick, I was referring to the printed article in the Autumn 2005 issue, which is much more extensive and involved and actually shows you how to make the drawboring pin. It is quite different than the Q&A link you indicated.

I just linked to the main page because you’d need to either have the issue or buy the back issue or CD from the website.

-- Ethan, http://www.merganserwoodworks.com, http://greystonegreen.blogspot.com/

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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posted 534 days ago

Ok Ethan.
This isn’t related, but, it’s about tenoning.

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WayneC

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posted 534 days ago

The drawbore subject is well covered in Forgotten Hand Tools by Christopher Schwarz. He uses them to do pinned tennons and describes how to make one. This is a great video and highly recommended if you like hand tools.

Also, I see them for sale on ebay every once in a while.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Red Headed Merganser

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posted 534 days ago

It might very well be the same thing, Wayne, as he’s the one who did the article in Woodworking Magazine.

-- Ethan, http://www.merganserwoodworks.com, http://greystonegreen.blogspot.com/

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WayneC

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posted 534 days ago

I’m sure it is. But good to see it in action in the video.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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posted 534 days ago

I’m not sure if this will work for everybody, but here’s a Video from FWW.

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posted 534 days ago

Dick: on the web site FWW that had the video you pointed to there was another article for pegged joints. here

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posted 534 days ago

Thanks Karson:
I seen that yesterday, & I should have put this link also, but you did it for me. There’s no end to information on the FWW website. That article should help someone.

LOL: This Blog turned out to be one on Pegging joints.

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oscorner

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posted 534 days ago

That’s a beautiful top, Dick! I really like the drawboard pegging!

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posted 532 days ago

Nice video, Dick, but I think I would have used my wooden mallet instead of a metal hammer to drive the pegs. Karson, I wasn’t able to view the article?

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Red Headed Merganser

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posted 532 days ago

Os, do you have a membership to the FWW on-line site? If not, the link won’t work.

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posted 532 days ago

Boy the competition is really heating up! Dick an outstanding job. You and I have the same idea on the pegging. I was too unsure of myself to work in a wedged tenon…I may have to readdress that now.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

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oscorner

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posted 531 days ago

Ethan, I do not have a membership, but the video worked, so I thought the link would too.

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posted 531 days ago

Greg3G,
I’ll be attempting the pegs soon, as you can see the holes are all bored, but first I’ve got to do the finish sanding to the top, because it would be difficult to sand after Assembly.

I’m quite assured that the pegging will be successful.

You know the old saying, ”Try it you might like it”.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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posted 531 days ago

I’m impressed, Dick. And I see you hired yourself to do all the acting in this video.

Great Job.

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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posted 531 days ago

Thanks Obi,
Stand in line if you want my autograph. LOL

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posted 531 days ago

Dick that is shaping up real nice. Good job

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