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rebuilding an old knife #3: Starting the scales

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Blog entry by jeffswildwood posted 07-04-2017 06:27 PM 921 reads 3 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 2: Rust removal Part 3 of rebuilding an old knife series Part 4: Finally back to the scales »

Hello to everyone who is following this thread. Not had much of a chance to work on the old knife in a bit but finally had a chance today. I have a plan how I want the handle to look, a bit ambitious but maybe doable. I got some wood in from Hokieken (thank you buddy) and the ideas went crazy. Here is a basic sketch of what I really want to try.

Instead of just a basic handle I want a “layering” in the middle. At first thought I said to myself “are you crazy”? The more I thought about it, the more I wanted to try it. My plan is katalox handle, a purple heart center stripe, mix in a stripe of my “mystery” brown wood and border in maple. A number of questions came up,

1) Will the adhesive hold the layers together.
2) How will I keep alignment during glue up.
3) Size and spacing of the layers.
4) Most important, will I like it.

At this point I started cutting my basic scales, Two out of three came out great, one not so great. That katalox is one tough cookie!

With one bad one I decided I could run a test run, make my mistakes now and actually see if it will work for me. I did some cutting and found I had too many layers. I decided to cut back to katalox, maple and purple heart. Here is the result of my test run.

I like the look! I used titebond for my test and it held very well. For the actual I will probably use epoxy. This seemed to answer most of my questions except one. Keeping alignment is tough and I am designing a jig to keep everything in alignment. Here is how it will look on the knife.

Thanks anyone who is following. It’s a long process but I’ll get there. Let me know what you think! The positive and the negative and any advice you care to give. I am definitely on a learning curve! Also if anyone has some info on this old knife, who made it, or anything let me know.!

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".



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Jerry

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#1 posted 07-04-2017 07:24 PM

Great job Jeff, you are going down an interesting path. If you have not seen the show “Forged in Fire” from National Geographic, you should.

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://www.geraldlhunsucker.com/

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#2 posted 07-04-2017 09:46 PM

Looks good Jeff. Really should build your scales with the layers before cutting out the shape of the handle. Your titebond is correct for the build up of the scales, then use epoxy to hold the scales and pins on. Do your final shaping and sanding after the epoxy has set up.

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#3 posted 07-04-2017 10:14 PM

That looks great Jeff. Dan has good advice ^. Glue em up then cut the scales out. Final shaping after epoxy. I love the choices! And yeah, that katalox is some tough stuff but it sure does polish up pretty.

Let me know if you need some more!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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jeffswildwood

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#4 posted 07-04-2017 10:28 PM

Thanks for the comments and advice guys. I appreciate them. This was only a test, a practice. I actually did glue before cutting the shape. Dan, thanks for the titebond approval. I may use this. Jerry, forged in fire is one of my favorite shows! I watch it every week. Ken, thanks for the wood and I think I’m good.

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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#5 posted 07-04-2017 10:43 PM

I love watching Forged in Fire, but couldn’t get medical approval to be on the show. ;-(

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#6 posted 07-04-2017 10:56 PM

I think you are going about it the right way Jeff. Looks like you have the knife build craze in you. Keep it up, it looks great.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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jeffswildwood

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#7 posted 07-05-2017 12:08 AM

Dan, I think you would do great on that show. Dave, thanks. I am really enjoying this. Something new and challenging I think. I would love to try my own blade someday, baby steps. In my prior post I was wrong, I formed the scale then cut it. No gluing other then the layers. I did the cut out just to see what it would look like. Sorry.

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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#8 posted 07-20-2017 12:43 AM

I tend to agree with torus’ comment from the previous installment:

“I am also against removing the lip on the bottom of the handle. I have seen knives with such feature. It is my guess that this lip is for protecting handle material and may be for better connection between metal and handle.”

Great job so far. Don’t drag this out like Kenny did on his bench please.

-- "Duck and Bob would be out doin some farming with funny hats on." chrisstef

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jeffswildwood

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#9 posted 07-20-2017 12:50 AM

duckmilk, thanks for the advice, I am wanting to leave the lip but with my limited experience, I may have to remove it. I don’t mean to drag this out, but cutting my stock material kinda stopped due to a toasted chop saw and table saw blade, and my band saw blade broke. All at the same time. Stay tuned, I will be back at it soon!

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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papadan

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#10 posted 07-20-2017 12:58 AM

Lame excuses! don’t own a hand saw? ;-)

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jeffswildwood

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#11 posted 07-20-2017 11:11 AM

Dan, you got me there buddy!

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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