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Alaska Jim's Comments of the Day #32: ........when the brain won't work.......do a no brainer.......Worksharp 3000

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Blog entry by Jim Bertelson posted 04-12-2011 03:11 AM 1466 reads 0 times favorited 41 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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In recovery from a weekend on call. Actually got my Worksharp 3000 going this afternoon.

Digression…..

I had this tool for over a year….. but never used it. bought it on sale. What LJ would do that?

Me. Special case. My buddies know this. If you are not a buddy, ask them. You still may not understand, but hopefully you will sympathize.

.....off the digression…...

So, a recovering workaholic, spent a few minutes on my current project and realized my brain was in shutdown. No original thinking possible, so forget the project. All my projects are original…...is it because I can’t follow instruction???

I know, none of you think I can follow instructions. But you are dead wrong….....

No. I proved it today.

Even I can follow instructions.

So remember, in recovery, brain in shutdown….........

So watched the video on the Workshop 3000…........

.......settle into the recliner, get into the movie mode…...

........now isn’t that the American Way….....when you want to relax….......turn on the boob tube….....no thought….other than figuring out how to get the cap off the beer bottle…...is it screw top?......or do I need an opener…..hopefully a screwtop…..’cause don’t know where I left the opener’.

Now the popcorn…....shucks…....talk about idiot stuff….......into the microwave…....and push the button that says “Popcorn”.

Now why can’t the tablesaw gurus fix that…......you know…....push a button for a 3/4” dado…...or dial the blade angle….......push a button…......and let her rip….......come on now….....lets get modern…....

OK, OK, OK…........

Watching the movie, thought about caveats, as I picked hulls out from betwen my teeth…....and washed the detritus down with Alaskan Amber…..........

I can see where people might get bad results. Not that it is difficult, but you don’t want to use it without looking at the instructions, which are simple, and well done.

But there is always the Archie type that can’t figure out why the axe blade doesn’t fit in the chisel port…........and calls the manufacturer with a complaint…....that too is the American Way.

I put the abrasives on the glass wheels, I had 5 abrasives, including two honing abrasives. I have three glass wheels….....think I bought two extras.

.........and the leather honing kit…..and the wide blade adapter…...all waiting for over a year…..to enhance my oh so special tools as they craft the latest creation to be published in Fine Woodworking. Right. In my dreams.

Now shouldn’t we do a little self analysis here, where are my hard won dollars going….......well…....the facts are not too pretty…........

I always buy the whole enchilada…don’t want to be left without the right attachment…....I suspect the manufacturers should use me in their ads…....compulsive, suggestible, compliant…....and not too critical. Doesn’t that sound like Archie?

I took one of my old chisels, the one I use for chipping out glue squeezeout when it is dry. It is an acrylic handled Stanley 3/4”, probably about 25 years old. A replacement for a lost 3/4” in a Craftsman set that is 40 years old. Decided I would figure out the new system using a secondary chisel.

Hear pluses and minuses about the Worksharp…....but some fraction of the minuses are probably from not following instructions. I mean, come on guys and gals, can’t afford the popcorn and the beer? The rest are probably valid…....it is not the ultimate sharpener, but it’s quick and doesn’t place any wear and tear on my wrists. I thought it would be a good solution for me, and after using it, I think it is.

So working with this old but cheap chisel I realized that….....when doing the backside…...if you get too close to the hilt it will get rough and gouged. Lesson learned. Don’t think I will repeat that.

Doing the bevel…..easy for the guys…..plunge in for one second…....pull out..letting it cool…..hmmmmmm…....plunge back in….....and so forth. Repetition. The American Way.

Learned that if you have a cheap chisel, even with a coarse grit, it takes a long time to make the back flat. I came close, but since I am using it for glue chip out, don’t want to get carried away.

I then worked through the grits and honing (only to the first level, let’s not get ridiculous on this cheap chisel) on the back and the bevel (I did not put in a micro bevel).

I have a new set of off the wall display from the local industrial hardware store….......cobbled together set…......labeled Sheffield and Longneck, they look identical. I may some day get good chisels, but not essential now.

They replaced the old set, which Sherie thought looked a lot like screwdrivers and used on more than one occasion accordingly.

My sharpened old chisel is definitely the sharpest chisel in the shop. One caveat….....if you start with cheap chisels, better use a real coarse grit method, perhaps a very coarse sheet on a glass or granite sheet, to get it into some degree of flat on the back before starting. That old chisel was not ground well at the factory. You might instead buy some coarser discs and trim them for the Workshop, especially if starting with a cheap chisel.

Otherwise, it was a simple no brainer, follow the instructions, the 3000 was set up with no skew from the factory. Just did what the video said. Couldn’t get through all the popcorn…...but finished the beer…...always finish the beer.

Yup, some days you need a no brainer….......especially on those days when you ain’t go no brain…......those are the appropriate days for a no brainer…............right….........

So, when the day comes that you ain’t got no brain…........well….....

Alaska (no brain today) Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska



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WayneC

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#1 posted 04-12-2011 03:28 AM

Hopefully the no brain days are far and few between. I had the same issue related to course grits. I belive worksharp sells a set of paper that has course grit paper, though your method would cost less. If the chisel was real bad I would use a bench grinder….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Jim Bertelson

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#2 posted 04-12-2011 03:34 AM

Wayne
Have a bench grinder and a 12” disc grinder…........would probably use the latter, because it would then be flatter.
Thanks for the viewing. I am short timing on vacation…...starts next week….....hopefully after that my brain will work better….........

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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grizzman

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#3 posted 04-12-2011 03:35 AM

well i hope the no brainier really was a no brainier…please dont tell me that you slapped the chisel on the hilt…please tell me so…....well now that you made it through this , what is next…is this no brainier good for another no brainier day….if not you could go out and use a stun gun to shoot a picture of you and your favorites bull moose…or get really brave and go out to Kodiak and use the stun gun on a 1000 pound grizz and get the picture of a lifetime…now those are true Alaskan no brainers…RIGHT…well maybe for the Alaskan who has frostbite of the brain…or have you been diagnosed with that lately..lets hope not..congrats on your recliner no brainer trainer video…i feel safe tonight….....

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#4 posted 04-12-2011 03:36 AM

I knew someday this day would come Jim. I had my doubts, sometimes almost gave up hope but (after a bout of heavy drinking) picked up hope again.

Good observations about the grits. I have a set of cheap Buck brothers plastic handled chisels and a set of Narex bench chisels. The cheap ones I use for the more sacrificial, construction style, DIY jobs around the house. The Narex are for more finese style tasks.

As you noticed, the grits are 150, 400, 1000, and 8000 that come with the package. 150 is a little high in grit for flattening the backs of cheap chisels. The Narex chisels that I bought were good steel but far from flat and had much in the way of machine marks when I got them. They are inexpensive for a reason, but as long as the steel was good, I was willing to put up with the nuisances.

The lower girts take the heaviest toll. I buy Norton sanding disks at 6 inch diameters for the unit. Stick on, punch a hole in the middle, and then trim around the edge of the glass disc and you will save a good deal of money. I buy them in 100 disc rolls online. For chisels that are more difficult to flatten, I go lower grits, usually about 100, have gone as low as 80 when really bad. Finish flattening at 150 and move up the chain. If you want to shave your arms go all the way up to 8000. Auto supply stores have high grit sanding discs more so than hardware stores. They use them for auto paint finishing. Retouching should require going with the higher grits. Once the chisel is flat and initially sharpened, you shouldn’t need the lower grits again unless you damaged a blade. (Like when they are used as a hammer or screwdriver by the wife.)

You will have to excuse me Jim as I wipe my tears and blow my nose. The waiting was worth it.

David

-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 04-12-2011 03:38 AM

Come on Jim we all know you don’t suffer from know brainer attacks. You always have such good things to contribute.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#6 posted 04-12-2011 03:47 AM

Now you are making me feel bad. Seems like this is easier to use than my original Tormek. Making the back of a chisel (or any similar cutting device) isn’t that easy.

Maybe I just need more beer!

Lew

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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grizzman

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#7 posted 04-12-2011 03:53 AM

well we have an alaskan jim + a1jim…does this equal a a1alaskan jim…...maybe that could be me…swingin through the tree…would that make me a no brainer tree swingin trainer video watcjin guy…..maybe i have drank to many beers…wait i dont drink…....well this could mean ive got real problems…i might need to be slapped…..one of the jims better let me know…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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Jim Bertelson

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#8 posted 04-12-2011 04:01 AM

Grizz

Ohmygosh, you know too much….........(-:

Feel safe, Grizz, yup, I have done my nobrainer….....and no violence involved.

Thanks eversomuch for the viewing, and hope your house will soon be in order as you fashion new avant garde projects from the fruits of….......your perfidy. Shame…........(-:

Thanks for the viewing and the comments….......

............your old Alaskan buddy with no brain today….....and no shame???

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Jim Bertelson

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#9 posted 04-12-2011 04:07 AM

A1Jim

Hey, old friend, I now have a vacation house closer to you, in La Conner, Washington, near Anacortes. We may yet get meet in person…....not too far from Oregon.

Thanks again, and hope all is well….......appreciate you dropping by….....glad you were amused by my bumblings in the sharpening arena. But I bet your tools always have a cord….....right…......or wrong? That’s my arena, gotta save my wrists for work….......chisels are used sparingly.

Most tools have a tail….........(-:

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#10 posted 04-12-2011 04:09 AM

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#11 posted 04-12-2011 04:42 AM

David Craig

Shucks David, gosh…....oh my, don’t know what to say…...how far you have come from your dumpster diving days

........and yet you think of me?

Do you have new tennis shoes….....that’s important when dumpster diving, you know that’s what people see…......what will they think, when you arise with a treasure, perhaps, sullied, malordorous, but held clenched in your teeth….....grinning with success?

Yes, I thought of you….....engrossed in the TV…...reaching for the popcorn…....nothing left but old maids…......

So I have accepted your sympathies….....your tears…..

...you must feel steadfast in my…......pledge….....to keep the chisels sharp…......

...........and with your sage advice….......your unfailing support….........could anyone expect,.....but the best from my hand,,,,,,,?

.........again, I must feel humble, dazzled with your heart felt…....and most vigilant tutelage…......may it not be in vain or lead you astray…..

I am yours…....as always….......

Brainless Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Jim Bertelson

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#12 posted 04-12-2011 04:56 AM

Lew
Thanks Lew, the back is my problem also, although, this was a first, and fairly close attempt. Looks like Wayne has come up with some links. Now understand, I am not comparing that chisel to much, but it is really sharp, like I mean sharp! But I didn’t get the whole back to a mirror finish, but with more time, I am sure I could.

Tormak has a great reputation. If I think this is the real deal, I’ll let you know. I think I will get some coarser grade paper (with Wayne’s help) and see how it goes. For a first try, I am delighted.

Hope all is well, and that portable island is working out swell…........(-:

Later….....and in the meantime…......have a beer for me…........

Jim

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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Jim Bertelson

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#13 posted 04-12-2011 05:00 AM

Grizz

Real problems….......you got real problems…......probably guilt from rigging that tree swindle…....(-:

I recommend physical therapy…........hmmmmmm…..........probably in the woodworking shop. That’s the answer….....more of those swell new, on a roll, projects…........I’m watching to be sure you are following medical advice….........

Who me? What brain…............(-:

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#14 posted 04-12-2011 05:01 AM

hey Jim nice to see you posting again :-)
started to worry about you several weeks ago hope all is well in the north
here we have spring and every thing starts to explode in green colours and rest of the rainbowcolours :-)

it most have been your nobrain wawes that had taking a trip around the world
since last night I just looked for the 7-8 time the sawsharpening vidio hosted by Tom Law
so now I have the right moode to ordre new files …lol

now you take care with this sharp what ever it is you think you have sharpened
I wuold not bee surpriced if its a ½inch roundstock of steal you have try´d to flatten the back of ….. LOL

take care
Dennis

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#15 posted 04-12-2011 01:17 PM

Congrats on implementation Jim. It looks like you will be enjoying sharpening from now on. The worksharp looks like a great system, but I am sticking with my diamond stone. I don’t have room for another machine! I might buy one as soon as I can enlarge my shop (after winning the lotto of course,lol).

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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