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So here is my problem, I made the dresser and ran out of wood. So I am rethinking how to make the drawers, I made one from 3/4 oak ply but you can see the plys, not very attractive. So Im thinking about putting some sort of banding around the top to cover that. Next when i made it I just used a simple butt joint with 3 1 5/8’’ screws in each join and titebond II. Im not quit sure if that will be strong enough to with stand the test of time. Another question, what is the best way to attach the bottoms in the drawers ? and what too use ? I planned on cutting a dado in the bottom portion of the sides front and back and just sliding the pine 1/4’’ with some glue, two things i didnt like about that, the bottom half of the dado, towards the bottom of the drawer just looked flimsy too me.. and i think the 1/4 would sag and not be very stable..
suggestions …
comments ….
advice …
thanks

-- " If it wont fit just hit it harder "



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HerbC

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#1 posted 914 days ago

Jaylost,

Material choices: Most drawers are made from 1/2” thick material. Use either solid wood (a “cheap” hardwood such as poplar would make a good choice) or a high quality plywood such as baltic birch which is very stable, has more/thinner plies and few if any voides in the plies would be better. Thinner (1/4”) plywood usually makes a fairly good drawer bottom if the drawer is not too large. If you use solid wood for bottom you must make allowances for seasonal movement of the wood.

Joint/drawer design: First of all, many make an open topped box using the material mentioned above and then make a false drawer front panel to fasten to the front of the box. Butt joints will probably fail fairly quickly in use and screws actually won’t help much in this scenario. Box (finger) joints would be much stronger, as would dovetail joints. The bottom should be in a dado cut in the sides, front and back (if using solid wood bottom, the back should be cut higher and the bottom wood run cross grain from side to side, so the movement would go under the back side…) Do NOT glue solid wood bottom into the dado groove. You must leave it floating to allow for movement or it will distroy you drawer.

I know I’m somewhat rambling and confusing in my comment but hopefully it will help you a bit.

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

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doncutlip

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#2 posted 914 days ago

I’ve been using biscuits in the corners, even started a thread to ask if that would stand the test of time and the general consensus was yes. I’d think the screws would hold just fine, maybe better than anything. I put my drawer bottoms in a dado as you suggest, leaving about 3/8 wood below the dado and that hasn’t been a problem so far, and I’ve built all my drawers out of pine.

-- Don, Royersford, PA

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jaylost

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#3 posted 914 days ago

thanks for the comments, I have to roll the ideas over in my brain for a few.. and see what i come up with. I just fixed my router table so i might try drawer lock joints and see how that pans out..

-- " If it wont fit just hit it harder "

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jaylost

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#4 posted 914 days ago

Oh and btw, the dimensions of the drawers are or about 35’‘L x 19’‘w x 7’‘deep. So in I dont think that 1/4 will make that span without some kind of support or what not between the sides…

-- " If it wont fit just hit it harder "

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HerbC

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#5 posted 914 days ago

Use thicker material for bottom and taper it to 1/4” on the edges which insert into the dado groove. Turn the bevel down so the surface facing the drawer is flat. That way you could use 3/8 or 1/2” thick material for bottom. Good quality plywood would be the best, you could even glue the plywood into the grooves to provide more structural strength.

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

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