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hand plane group therapy (my journey into it) #4: sitting with the niece and coffee

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Blog entry by jacob34 posted 05-17-2012 02:24 PM 992 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I am sitting with my 6 month niece and drinking coffee my 4 year old sitting here as well and I mentioned talking to myself hmm which hand plane should I fix up first. My niece says gurgle gurgle burp which I am pretty sure means the small block plane as it looks to be the quickest and a lot of people have said it will be the most used. But my 4 year old says the big one, which is a wooden bench plane and I have no idea of the complete process on that one although I did read that you don’t sand them. I am kinda leaning toward either the Stanley 5 1/2 smoother or the 5 1/4 jack plane (which has yet to show up).

I am looking for advice wooden plane, easier block plane or a Stanley? I am excited to work on one and doing research to make sure that I don’t make more work for myself than needed or mess up the plane. Any suggestions for where to for steps? I saw someone mention a book about reclaiming flea market hand tools.

I am also excited that in the next few days my no. 78 and 5 1/4 jack plane will arrive.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log



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chrisstef

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#1 posted 05-17-2012 02:35 PM

Id say if its your first restore start on the one in the roughest shape that will be used the least. This way is your screw somethin up no big deal. I highly doubt something will get screwed up but theres always that chance. Ive heard #8 frogs like to jump off tables, just ask Bertha. By starting with the one in the worst shape the rest will seem easy. Are you going the evaporust route for rust removal?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#2 posted 05-17-2012 02:55 PM

Chris that would be the no. 78 or at least I think so I haven’t gotten it but the pics are pretty rough. As for the least used I am not sure rabbeting plane maybe eh I am not sure I have never used hand planes so I am kinda playing all this by ear. I also am not sure how to gauge a metal plane vs a wooden one. I have one with broken handle, one with cracked wood, the other look like minor mostly cleaning and sharpening.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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Don W

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#3 posted 05-17-2012 03:01 PM

Do the one with mi or cleaning and sharpening. You may need it for the others.

I do sand my wooden restores. (see my projects and blogs). It depends on condition, so sometime I start with a plane then to scraper, then to sanding, usually 500 grit.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#4 posted 05-17-2012 03:13 PM

thanks Don I looked at some of your blogs good stuff will be very helpful.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#5 posted 05-17-2012 03:43 PM

Ive got a #78 awaiting restore as well … Don W … what angle do you sharpen your #78 at?

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#6 posted 05-17-2012 03:49 PM

I ordered on with no side rail or depth gauge and was luck to find one eBay for parts with both.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#7 posted 05-17-2012 03:52 PM

Good deal Jacob, i had myself a little sharpening session last night and im hoping to knock out a bunch of plane restores in the next week or so. Then im off on a new project … an ambrosia maple and walnut coffee table.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#8 posted 05-17-2012 04:20 PM

want to build a table nothing as fancy as all that, a low table for the girls I think I will spray it with the chalk board spray paint, will end up out of plain ol pine.

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#9 posted 05-17-2012 04:22 PM

My 78 is 25 degrees

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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jacob34

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#10 posted 05-17-2012 04:40 PM

because that is the normal go to angle or works best?

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#11 posted 05-17-2012 04:44 PM

to the best of my knowledge, both. To be honest, I haven’t used the 78 enough to have tried other angles. I’m sure its like every other plane in that it will depend on the wood(grain). I have found 25 works for most things most of the time, but there are times when it doesn’t.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#12 posted 05-17-2012 06:27 PM

For a bevel down plane like the 78, the sharpening angle doesn’t affect the cutting angle.

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jacob34

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#13 posted 05-17-2012 06:32 PM

you know that makes sense. did not think about that thanks

-- so a bear and a rabbit are sitting on a log

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#14 posted 05-17-2012 10:30 PM

Hi. You have some lovely planes there and a lot of work ahead. My choice would definitely be to fix up the Stanley 5 1/2 first.
Take alook at what Don does with his metal planes and you won’t go wrong.
Strip it down and clean it up. Paint it black.
Clean the frog up and make sure it is sitting/ fixed to the plane body properly.
Ensure all threads and adjusters are working smoothly.
Important bit is to have a good blade and chip breaker. Have them sharp and well fitted.
They’re easy and cheap to replace if need be.
Wire brush the lever cap. These are not always easy to get a hold of in nice shiny chrome condition, in my experience.
The handles are not difficult to repair. Or even make anew But the one from the no7 will fit no problem in the short term.
Take time, effort and elbow grease to clean up the sole & sides on a FLAT surface.
The no5 1/2 will be great experience and give you confidence to do a great job on the others.
IMHO the 5 1/2 are the best all round planes, I’ve got 3 of them set up in slightly different ways 2 refurb Stanleys and a Lie Nielsen ( my favourite) and use them all the time for practically everything. The 2 3/8” wide blade will do a lot of work for you.
The no.5 1/2 is a big Jack plane, a Fore plane and a short panel Jointer plane rolled into one:-)
Master this plane and it will be your ‘go to’ plane.
Sorry for rambling on a bit, but I hope this is of some interest and help to you.
Cheers,

John.

-- Gossamer shavings just floating around the back yard….-Bandit

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