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Toy costruction #45: Coal Train Build day 4.5 Wheels

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Blog entry by htl posted 05-05-2016 12:00 AM 1041 reads 1 time favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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It’s time to make the wheels or what ever their called on trains.
Spent nearly the whole day yesterday trying out an idea and it was a bust and I don’t like not accomplishing something, well I did get the 4 small front wheels done but I’ll show them later but that’s all I got done.
So today I headed in a whole new direction about the wheels and got them done thank you very much. LOL

Here’s what I did yesterday and you’ll find it some day on a project that just needs that.

The idea was to glue up some wood that kinda looked like spokes and then cut them up and put them in the rim of the steel tire, but it just ain’t working so lets move on and see what does work.

How about we make some real spokes for the train wheels.

Now here’s how I did it.

First I glued on a pattern for the spokes, I cut the pattern down close to the circle so I could see the line of the spokes really well.
I made a jig to hold the wood with the pattern up on the sliding table.
The object of this is to line the spoke pattern up with the saw blade and make a cut half way throw the wood.[deep]
So clamp cut one line loosen line up next spoke clamp cut for all the spokes, then on to the next wheel.

Now we glue up all the spokes with supper glue and no I didn’t glue myself to the table.
Cut thins strips that fit in the saw cut.
The center will be driller out so it doesn’t need to be really neat but I did use the disk sander to sand the angles where the wood matched up, just can’t stand the ugly if you didn’t.

Now we trim off the extra and sand it flat, not to finish just so we can put it on the drill press and drill out the axle holes.

Now their ready to take to the Shopsmith and round them on the wheel making jig BUT FIRST we need to make the tire treads where the train meets the track.

I used two different sized hole saws to make these rings, first the larger hole then the smaller.
[I had some left over parts and just drilled them out for my rims, that why I’m using the pliers to hold the part.]
These are quite delicate so make extras and when your all done it would pay to coat them with super glue so they will last.
When I say this I mean when the wheels are finished, super glue doesn’t stick to itself very well.

Now that we have the rings made we now can sand the spoke centers to fit in the rings.
I slowly sanded down till they fit, and as you can see I busted a couple of them.
I really need to dull down my hole saw blades so they don’t cut so fast.
Now it’s sand sand sand and polish every thing up.
I can now glue up the centers and cut out the back plate for the wheel.

I really haven’t shown how the sanding jig works so lets do that with the back plates.

Hole saw out some plates, over size of course.


The reason there’s two dowels out at the end of the jigs is the pointed one I used first but with these bigger disks they were flopping around and was afraid they would break so made a new holder farther back for more support.

I can set the SS where it should stop but once I’m close to the right size I find I can control the disk better if I unlock the table and just tap it for those super fine adjustments to get er right.

So there they are all sanded and ready to ride the train.
Here’s also the shot of the front wheels, I may need to thin then a little but their close.

I would guess you could just glue the spokes to the wood but for me there’s always those couple that slip and aren’t right and this is a place where it would really show up so by cutting the groves you trap the spokes and they can’t go any where but right.
Just my $.02

That’s all folks.
Hope you enjoyed it.

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-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.



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LittleBlackDuck

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#1 posted 05-05-2016 02:54 AM

Brilliant (for a non-Dutchman). A hell of a lot better than holes which was better than no holes. You should sent the method into T &J and get them to make a video… or better still get you to star in the video (and maybe even mention the wheel).

-- There's two ways to do things... My way or the right way.. LBD

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htl

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#2 posted 05-05-2016 03:30 AM

Ducky it’s all your fault your the one got me thinking in that direction.
Me and cameras don’t get along.
I have to be careful when I’m taking pictures of my projects any little shiny thing that reflects me in it will break the camera.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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Dutchy

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#3 posted 05-05-2016 07:16 AM

Bruce I always like your contributions and this one is special and that’s why I enjoyed looking at and reading it very much. Also great build instructions. THANKS and well done.

I.m glad this train wheels don’t have…..................(sorry I can’t remember)?

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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htl

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#4 posted 05-05-2016 01:54 PM

Thanks Dutchy much appreciated.
But Dutchy you need to remember it could be important. LOL

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htl

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#5 posted 05-05-2016 02:14 PM

Here’s what the wheels should look like.
I know I still need to add the counter weight but my wheels look some what close.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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#6 posted 05-07-2016 12:14 PM

The wheel/axel sets on a train are called the “trucks” .... Dont know how I know that, it’s just another useless bit of information that is rattling around in my brain :-)

Nice job on the spokes. You got more determination (and patience) that I would have !

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htl

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#7 posted 05-08-2016 12:58 AM

Joe you get into some of them segmented bowls and you’ll be in the same boat.
I hadn’t noticed if you have tried any of those yet or not?

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#8 posted 05-08-2016 01:03 PM

... wheel/axel sets on a train are called the “trucks” ....
You Americans sure know how to basterdise the queen’s English. The correct name for axels with metal tyres is ”bogie”.

-- There's two ways to do things... My way or the right way.. LBD

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htl

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#9 posted 05-08-2016 02:27 PM

Well I ain’t never heard that one before sur is a new one on me. lol

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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