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Toy costruction #27: Tires time 3

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Blog entry by htl posted 03-15-2016 11:30 PM 1041 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 26: Tires day 2. Part 27 of Toy costruction series Part 28: Wheels at last finito!!! »

I’m still playing with the tires trying out some different ideas.
Here’s what I came up with today.
They’re a long way from perfect,
There’s quite a learning curve building wheels and come next time they’ll be much better.
I like these a lot, may drill the back ones deeper so the centers set deeper but it’s getting close.

I had some 1 1/2 tires sitting around waiting for some thing to do so I put them to work to see if they might be the ones.
I used this picture to mark off the five holes, just set the tire over the picture and got the 5 marks.
I tried drilling it free hand and the drill would snake around because I’m drilling at the edge of the tire.
So using that same jig that I used for band sawing the treads, I clamped it to the drill press table so it wouldn’t move, set the tire over the dowel and driller the 5 holes, now that’s much better.

I believe the Forstner bits will be the best way to go drilling them.
After that I sanded them till they fit the wheel hole.
SS to the rescue.

One more day rounding the edges and finding the best look then well be making the trans axial and may play with some ideas for springs.
Front tires on the left backs on the right.


Having fun hope all’s well with you all.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.



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#1 posted 03-15-2016 11:33 PM

Those wheels look so good Bruce….well done

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#2 posted 03-15-2016 11:37 PM

Thank crowie
You got on here so quick you must be looking over my shoulder???

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#3 posted 03-16-2016 12:32 AM

I’m diggin’ the wheels !

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#4 posted 03-16-2016 12:41 AM

I’m trying Thanks.

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#5 posted 03-16-2016 07:46 AM

This turned out very well. Very nice. Thanks for sharing.

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#6 posted 03-16-2016 08:40 AM



Thank crowie
You got on here so quick you must be looking over my shoulder???

- htl

Morning tea time downunder so openned up the computer and your beaut wheels popped up…
Just had to give praise were it and when it was due….

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#7 posted 03-16-2016 02:08 PM

Thanks Jan
Love to search the net and find new to me interesting ways of doing things.

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#8 posted 03-16-2016 02:13 PM

Crowie
It’s funny I had just posted it closed the post then thought I’d better check it and you had already commented.
You didn’t even give it time for the ink to dry.

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#9 posted 03-16-2016 02:19 PM

Hey I really like your wheels looking good keep up your ideas and thoughts.
D

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#10 posted 03-30-2016 12:41 PM

Bruce, are the centers pre-fab wheels or did you lathe them? If pre-fab what is their, I am presuming T&J, part number? Any chance of a copy of your templates for measurement purposes (and design of course).

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#11 posted 03-31-2016 12:52 AM

Duck these were 1 1/2 store bought wheels that I sanded down to fit.
I got them at Hobby Lobby which is a craft store in the US.

I just had a bag of them laying around so gave it a try
I now have a lathe so may just may give it a try next time.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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#12 posted 03-31-2016 02:49 AM

Thx, T&J sell 1.5” wheels for 35 cents each. Unless I need to “timber match” it wouldn’t be economical to lathe….
Having said that, I thought exactly the same of the 2.5” truck wheels and made a bulk purchase for future/duplicated projects as I always buy the parts kits with the plans, for the first build.

However having seen your’s and Dutchy’s wheels, while the $1.40/wheel price is great on the pocket (and time), it doesn’t compare with the handmade results.

$%!@#... You guys have just cost me about 40+ extra hours per build.

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#13 posted 04-01-2016 01:35 AM

Duck if you didn’t mind the treads matching up you could make the wheels I make quite easily.
And this will be what I do on my next build.
Just use the table saw and cut the groves both ways. [table saw gives much cleaner cuts to me]
Once with the round of the wheel then across like we did with the band saw.
I would use a 7 1/4” skill saw blade to get as thin a tread as possible plus I just like using smaller blades.
Just my $.02

PS I just saw your fire truck over at the Drop Box and man it turned out so nice.

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#14 posted 04-01-2016 05:53 AM

[table saw gives much cleaner cuts to me]
People say I’m psycho (I can read minds), and am one trip to the hardware store ahead of you.
Thinking alike I bought a 7 1/4” 1.5mm kerf Diablo blade 2 days ago after being inspired by the thin kerf bandsaw cuts..

... didn’t mind the treads matching up …
Do you mean not matching plans or hard to get matching wheels?

As for the fire truck, I hope you mean Photobucket (as I’ve only posted SU drawings/models on DropBox)? Thx, but it’s nothing significant to what others make unless it had the black ”htl/Dutchy” wheels (and of course exhaust pipes drilled out). Not trying to suck… but I do like your wheels.

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#15 posted 04-01-2016 01:45 PM

” ... didn’t mind the treads matching up …

Do you mean not matching plans or hard to get matching wheels?”

The treads will be in line with each other not staggered like Dutchy and I made mine.
When I made mine I was tempted to have the treads in line with each other but ended up staggering them but won’t be doing that next time.

Here’s my idea.
1 make a round wheel blank with axial hole 3”round by what 2” thick [hight- thickness???]
2 Set table saw up to cut the treads 1/4” deep
3 Roll the side of the wheel on the fence and make the treads. I used a stop so the tire would stay in one place.
How about making some spacers to move the tire the distance needed each time this would make for more accurate tread thickness with out having to think about it.

4 Make a jig to hold the tires side ways kind a like the one we used on the band saw, but set up for the table saw.
5 Cut treads side ways on the jig.
Note May want to make first treads wider so you’ll have room to shape the side of the wheel for even a better look.
You will end up with a nice looking wheel with all the treads in line.
This will look just like what we made but won’t take half as much work.

By not having to slice the tires and glue them back up will come out much cleaner.
This is how I will be making my next tires
Just my $.02

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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