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Toy Construction #167: Tires for the Coupe

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Blog entry by htl posted 12-19-2017 11:44 PM 1574 reads 1 time favorited 21 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Now that I’ve figured out the hubs, I’m going for some street tires for the coupe.

Before I can go much farther with the coupes frame and suspension, I needed to build the tires so I’m know how big they well turn out to be. [The fronts will be smaller but just as wide.]
I usually start out with a size in mind but buy the time I get them made and sanded they can be a whole different beast.
I made up a whole bunch a plain and angled treads so I could try for a different look.
I had really liked the 5 part tyre I made last time so will be looking into more of that.
Here’s a couple different looks.

This one looks way to busy to me, but would probable look pretty cool once done.
Notice that all the spaces are matched up.
Would probable look good on a Indy car.

Here the spaces are staggered.

Here’s the one I’m going with both types of spacing.

Here’s the tires matched up and ready to glue up.

All glued up and ready for shaping and sand sand sand.

Came up with a way to make thinner tread spacing.
Feels a lot safer too.

Not all the tyres make it to the finish unharmed.
And do you see that roll a test treads, I tried a few different things before it all came together.

But all and all I think I can live with 4 of the 10 tires that made it through.


Still going to take some work to get them usable.

Then back to the frame.

I should add the smaller these tyres get the harder time I’m having coming up with usable tyres.
As with all thing in wooden model building bigger is better.
The last tyres were made of poplar and these are maple and I thought the maple would work better but this time the poplar wins for a better looking tire but there again they are just a tad bigger.

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#1 posted 12-20-2017 12:31 AM

Just great seeing how you make these and the tool setups…thanks

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#2 posted 12-20-2017 04:38 AM

What timber are you using for the tyres Bruce, to get that sort of destruction? Cheers, Peter

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#3 posted 12-20-2017 04:57 AM

nice tires, that is sure allot of work with so many thin pieces, The tread cutting jig makes it all possible, with out going cross eyed looking at a paper pattern.

-- Brian - Hazelton, British Columbia

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#4 posted 12-20-2017 05:02 AM

Crowie I used maple for these tires I would have thought it would have been better than poplar but my last tires turned out way nicer but then again they are a little bigger so there’s more wood to help hold it together.
Making small tires like these I may need to stop using 36 treads per tire and go to maybe 24 that way the treads would be a little stronger.
If I remember right the tires that broke are only 2 1/4” so a pretty small tire.
It was in the routing and sanding there I started having problems..
One other thought it maybe time for a new router bit.

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#5 posted 12-20-2017 07:58 AM

Although in the end there are only 4 pieces usable, they are very nice and above average in terms of execution. If you are able to get hornbeam I’m sure more tyres (tires) would have succeeded.

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#6 posted 12-20-2017 08:12 AM



Crowie I used maple for these tires I would have thought it would have been better than poplar but my last tires turned out way nicer but then again they are a little bigger so there s more wood to help hold it together.
Making small tires like these I may need to stop using 36 treads per tire and go to maybe 24 that way the treads would be a little stronger.
If I remember right the tires that broke are only 2 1/4” so a pretty small tire.
It was in the routing and sanding there I started having problems..
One other thought it maybe time for a new router bit.

- htl

Bruce, For the few grooved tyres I’ve made [no where as fancy as yours] I’ve used Aussie Hardwoods as I’ve found the softer timbers do tear and splinter badly; so the thought or recommendation to the teacher/master is: do you have some hard or harder timbers available for the wheels come tyres?? Cheers, Peter

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#7 posted 12-20-2017 08:57 AM

There’s always going to be problems so was just trying to let it be known that not all projects run smoothly all the time.
That’s one reason I always make more parts than needed especially when they’re this complicated.
There are going to be pieces a wood that just want to be firewood so I’ll let them go there. LOL

I should add that four tires turned out fine and four are usable but could be better, and I got to thinking about it and the one that’s really broke could be fixed by sanding off the outside treads and gluing on new ones, but not worth the trouble unless I need it down the road..

*One other thing hit me on the last set I used a wider tread on the outsides, so would be much stronger to withstand the router and sanding. and can now see that I need to go back to that practice.

This is one of the benefits to writing a blog, it gets me thinking about the project and figuring out what works and doesn’t, plus once I write it down I can quit thinking about it as other wise it just keeps coming back, is that a sign of obsession??? LOL

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#8 posted 12-20-2017 11:46 AM

Great looking tires and wheels man.

-- A childs smile is payment enough.

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#9 posted 12-20-2017 12:03 PM

The posts like these are like a giant dust collector…...they are sucking me in. I am getting close to try my hand at making the wheels…..soooo close. It it is the next project on my list.

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#10 posted 12-20-2017 11:44 PM

Sorry Redoak49, my wife told me I had left the cyclone running and turned it off so maybe just maybe no one else will get sucked in but please many pictures of the adventure. LOL

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#11 posted 12-21-2017 12:14 AM

Man on a mission! I’ve never built a model but this sure is interesting!

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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#12 posted 12-21-2017 01:23 AM

Tony “Man on a mission! ”

I think I need to stop and build a desk or turn something cause this is starting to look like an obsession, me thinks. LOL

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#13 posted 12-21-2017 01:39 AM

Here’s where I got the blade for the thin treads.
Harbor Freight
I bought these way back and they sat in a drawer for ??? but then I got looking for a thinner blade and here they were just sitting waiting for something to do. ;-}
I took my time with these and they worked just fine.

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#14 posted 12-21-2017 02:53 AM

Tony I just went and checked out all your projects and to me it looks like you’ve been in training for model building for years so get at it and build a model something. LOL
You didn’t know I was an ambassador for the LJ’s model building association did you?

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#15 posted 12-21-2017 04:08 AM

LOL! What project did it make that gives you that impression htl? I just may try to build a model someday but for now I rather drool over your great work! What’s funny is I have that saw set from HF in my dremel box. It’s still new too! Anyway thanks for the confidence push! :)

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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