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Toy Construction #154: New Wheel Making Jig #1

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Blog entry by htl posted 10-07-2017 05:04 AM 1410 reads 1 time favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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My old wheel making jig was way way wore out so when we moved it hit the trash can. :-[

So time to make a new one with thoughts of being more accurate and safer to use.
Want it to work with my hands farther from the blade and need to come up with a way to get better holes drilled for the dial indicator [if that the right word]

So with that being said I needed to find a guide to drill 36 holes at just the right spacing.

I started by using a 36 tooth 7 1/2” saw blade to force the drill bit to stay in place and not wander as I driller the holes.
It still may not be perfect but for my needs way better than before.

I started to use my smaller sliding table with the dial indicator [will use dial for dial indicator from now on] out over the end of the fence.
The thought being the larger the dial the more accurate the tool and the dial was already made at 7”.
I also wanted the dial away from the saw blade as I cut the wheels.
This all sounded good at the time but my small sliding table had a fence on the back for stiffness that was getting in the way of taking the tires on and off.
I wanted to be able to cut 3 or 4 tires at a time if possible would really speed up the building process.

So seeing the problems coming my way I re-drilled my dial and then made a smaller dial.

Then went and built a new sliding table just for this jig.
There would be no need for stiffeners as I wouldn’t be cutting though on ether end.
The dial was just small enough to be over the table so no worry’s about hitting the saw table any more.


I still need to build a top so I can add a vac hook up that will be easy to open and the back can be closed in for more support when cutting 4 wheels at a time.

So the three main things are
The dial being much more accurate
Moving the dial away from the cutting so not cutting the dial up.
The dial and the tire blank holder are bolted together so they move as one.

Will probable make a fast lock pin for the dial lock [like Duckys] but my pin stop looks to work just fine for now.

Knowing what I know now I could have moved the center partition in closer to the front but lets try this one out a couple a times to be sure of no unseen problems first.

I would make some tires now but in the middle of this I started having ideas about building a sub so will be getting back to this next week me thinks. LOL

So now there is no need to set up anything to make wheels just set it on the saw set the saw blade high and cut treads.

One more thought, there’s only 6 screws holding the jig to the table so would be no problem if table needed for other uses, I would drill some dowel guides before removing so would be easy to get back to right fast.

The jig can make treads for tire from 2 1/2” to just under 4” with a 7 1/2” blade and with a 10” blade 1” I would think but not needing any that size any time soon I hope.

Here's an update to this blog post.

Here's some wheels made with the jig.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.



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Dutchy

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#1 posted 10-07-2017 06:19 AM

A nice jig, not that sophisticated as Ducky’s one, but perfect for his task. Great idea of that saw blade.

How about tractor wheels?

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LittleBlackDuck

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#2 posted 10-07-2017 06:23 AM

#4, love the simplicity of it. With the size of the indexing wheel (even the smaller one), there seems to be sufficient space between holes to prevent breakage.

Absolutely love the use of the metal hardware to ensure perfect alignment.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#3 posted 10-07-2017 10:20 AM

Another way to do it. Imagination and a little work and it’s done. I SHOULD do a blog, I have been asked so many tomes about spooked wheels and lug wheels. I like the simplicity of this. Doug

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htl

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#4 posted 10-07-2017 02:55 PM

AS I said the jig could be let loss with 6 screws and flipped to a different angle and then screwed down, then drill a couple a dowel holes for guides and then be set for those fancy mudders but don’t make many of them just wanted a quick and easy way to get my simple straight treads done.
The pin stop I made has a pointed end to slip into the guide hole for fast placement I would add.
There is no slop or wiggling of the dial or tire holder they are bolted and locked in place on the all thread.
I know on my box making jig there was a slight give so be keeping the dial turned to one side or the other you would get consistent cuts and by cutting to one side then cut to the other side you could if needed get a 1/32 or so wider grove if needed for tight grooves.

The main thing I was after was not having to be looking every time I change to cut the next tread, plus have some ideas for a new tread pattern where the treads must match up or it just won’t look right .

LOL this jig could and will probable be used for making spooks as well, just clamp it side ways to the drill table and you could drill spooks. lol

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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htl

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#5 posted 10-07-2017 06:36 PM

To late to change from spooks to spokes but you all get the idea I hope. :-]

Ducky don’t even go there. LOL

There ain’t no tracks mirrors or any other of them nasty parts on this sub!!!

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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htl

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#6 posted 10-07-2017 09:07 PM

Sorry Ducky I’m getting my sub and wheel threads mixed up, talking about the track and mirror comment.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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htl

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#7 posted 10-09-2017 04:27 AM

”Great idea of that saw blade.”

Duchy I would have liked to have used a smaller saw blade to start with but my battery powered Dewalts blade was If I remember right 5” but only had 24 teeth and already had this 36 tooth 7” dewalt blade so went with it.
I really don’t think I could get much more accuracy with out going with a metal dial.
Should be close enough for my models, and the main thing was I didn’t want to be looking every time I move the dial, just pull the pin and switch holes.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#8 posted 10-09-2017 05:51 AM


..... I would have liked to have used a smaller saw blade to start with but…. had 24 teeth….
- htl

Gents, why do you need to over complicate things. Just break off 16 teeth if you want a 20 index, however, remember to work down on the index scale as if you then want a 24 index it may be a tad difficult to glue the teeth back. Just spread the missing teeth out (as shown) or the saw may wobble on your next cut.

And again… the Duck to the rescue!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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htl

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#9 posted 10-09-2017 02:00 PM

Now that’s just plain scary!!!

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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GR8HUNTER

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#10 posted 10-09-2017 02:31 PM

And again… the Duck to the rescue!
—If your first cut is too short… Take the second cut from the longer end… LBD
Quote

remember Elmer Fudd shot the face off that duck LMAO :<))

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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htl

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#11 posted 10-09-2017 04:01 PM

GR8 More than once if I remember right, and well deserved!!! lol

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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#12 posted 11-04-2017 11:27 PM

Love the simplicity of how to mark out the indexing plate. Like you I enjoy making the jigs for the models I make

-- Derek, Kent, UK, http://s702.photobucket.com/albums/ww21/diggerdelaney/

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htl

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#13 posted 12-12-2017 05:01 AM

”“I still need to build a top so I can add a vac hook up that will be easy to open and the back can be closed in for more support when cutting 4 wheels at a time.””

Just wanted to update this.
There’s no need for the vac hook up this cuts so close to the base all most all the saw dust goes out the bottom.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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