Building Rivergirl's Tool Box #1: conclusion

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Blog entry by helluvawreck posted 11-03-2010 03:48 AM 1988 reads 0 times favorited 19 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I will conclude this blog on the building of rivergirl’s toolbox. I worked real hard this past weekend on rivergirl’s tool box. It is going very well because I have put my heart and soul in it and I will finish what I say I will do. My wife and my two daughters have watched me work on her toolbox these last two weekends and they know that I am putting my heart and soul in it and they are fine with that because they know my heart and soul and they know my personality and know that I will never harm them and that I love them truly always. I have told them about rivergirl and what a fine lady she is. So let not any man say there is anything bad in my building of this toolbox for rivergirl. I have no ulterior motives other than she is my dear friend and I will always love her as a friend. Had I not come to Lumberjocks I would not have known of her wonderful personality so I thank LJ for our friendship.

The building of this tool box is an intently personal experience and I will put my heart and soul in it. It will have my personality in it. As a matter of fact, everything that I do with my woodworking tools has my heart and soul in it. You cannot separate anything that I do with my tools from my personality. I don’t know when I will finish it but when I finish it I will know it and I will send it on to rivergirl and may it serve her well.

A woodworker without a personality is about as interesting to me as a stump in a clear cut forest. In my opinion, anyone who misses my point misses the real nature of woodworking by a very large degree. It’s a love of your tools and the wood and what your hands can do with the both of them whether you are an outright beginner or a seasoned professional. If Lumberjocks wants to take the personality out of the woodworkers on this site, as if you could really separate the two, then you err. Here is the conclusion of the blog:

“So let it be written” that once upon a time in the history of the world an old man called helluvawreck built a special tool box, with his own two hands, for a beautiful lady called rivergirl that would be exchanged for a special foot stool, that she built with her own two hands, in order for helluvawreck to have a comfortable place to rest his tired, weary feet in the twilight years of his old age. “So let it be done.”

Now, I will become one of the stumps in the clearcut forest.

The blog about rivergirl’s tool box has concluded.

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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#1 posted 11-03-2010 03:57 AM

I hope you have a change of heart. I was looking forward to seeing your completed toolbox. Knowing that the project was so much more than “just building something”. I beg to at least see it in your projects. With the Coffee Lounge issues going on right now, emotions are on high with many LJ’s. Sleep on it, take a deep breathe, and look at things with fresh eyes in the morning.
Take care,

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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#2 posted 11-03-2010 04:31 AM

That’s a nice story. You shouldn’t have to explain it, at least to me. I give away most things I make. I hope to see pics of it.

It’s sad that all the bad things going on here lately have overshadowed the good. Thanks for bringing back some good.

-- My reality check bounced...

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#3 posted 11-03-2010 05:17 AM

I concur with Gary and Hairy, You continue to follow your heart and let the devil take the hind most. I vote to let rivergirl share with us after she gets to enjoy it first. It is always nice to see a true gentleman giving of himself. Rand

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#4 posted 11-03-2010 05:20 AM

I second hairy’s emotion

--, Rick Kruse, Grand Rapids, MI

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#5 posted 11-03-2010 05:30 AM

Thats a nice story, congrats for doing it.

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#6 posted 11-03-2010 09:48 AM

I find it disheartening that Lumberjocks, like all other places in the world is a land of gossip and inuendo that is inherently tied to sexism and jealousy. Now I do not know who has obviously insulted the grace and integrity of Charles (helluvawreck) but be assured, he knows. And be assured that it has not gone unnoticed by me, a woman, that it is acceptable in this forum for two MEN- to exchange gifts of all types, but it is deemed unacceptable for a woman and a man to engage in any level of friendshiip beyond posting pics of their projects. Like Charles, who had so much fun making his toolbox for me, I also had a blast making a stool for him. There is nothing secret nor dirty nor inappropriate about our friendship. Both Charles and I have families who are fully aware of our friendship; of his toolbox for me; of my little bench for him. And our families were INVOLVED in the processes of creating the gift and the surprise. Now, I have to tell you Charles is a man of principal; a gentleman; a man who respects his wife and loves his children. NO ONE ON THIS SITE has the right to cast aspersions on a man who has done nothing to shame himself nor his familiy. Afterall,if it is OKAY for Div and Mads to exchange gifts; it is OKAY for Littlecope and David to exchange gifts, If it is OKAY for Napoleon and dennis to not only visit Mads home BUT SPEND THE NIGHT, same for Patron and his travels then why, in this forum of friendship, and sharing of craftsmanship; is it inappropriate for ME a woman, to enjoy the same tokens of friendship with a gentleman of high caliber? Truth is sexism is alive and well in this forum, and sadly the feelings of a true gentleman have been hurt by those who are JEALOUS of my FRIENDSHIPS with several men on this forum, including Charles. SHAME ON YOU!!!!

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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#7 posted 11-03-2010 01:35 PM

I may be new to the site, but I MUST agree with Charles and Kelly. Over the years I’ve been alone with many of the family friends of the female persuasion. no problem. Helping to do home upgrades for single divorcees, just visiting and so on. Hell at one time got ‘busted’ having a beer with a friends wife when he got home from work. I’d just finished a baby gate on the second floor deck that he’d not been able to get at..
Ye gods, my wife dosen’t even bat an eye when i’m gone drag racing for three or four days, hundreds of miles away surrounded by dozens of young semi clad ladies in the heat of the summer with my very own travel trailer and an ice box Full of BEER ! For the post race partays.

Good Grief !
(perhaps grow up would be apropriate ?)

But I’d have liked to see the finished product Helluvawreck ?

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#8 posted 11-03-2010 01:48 PM

Apparently I must have missed a few posts. Didn’t realize someone had deemed this “inappropriate” to exchange gifts with someone of the opposite sex. When I’m doing a renovation for a single mother or perhaps a wife that is home while I’m working, I’m frequenly asked “while I’m there” to fix that or replace this or can you carry this upstairs for me its too heavy, etc. Usually I just do it for them as a freebie without second thoughts. Nothing expected beyond that.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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#9 posted 11-03-2010 01:48 PM

My dear friend, true of heart buddy.
I do not know what has been suggested, but stupid people have allways been arround, so do not mind.
I find the story so wonderful and touching, and I completely agree, RiverGirl are a special and wonderful person, so she deserves it.
Do not listen, let the water pass under the bridge, show us all you are greater than that.
I look forward to see the post of the finished box.
Best of thoughts, straight from my heart, since I know you are a man that can administrate a open heart,

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#10 posted 11-03-2010 01:56 PM

Thank you Glen, Gary and Mads. I am not sure exactly what transpired- however, I do know that it takes a lot to ruffle Charles feathers. However, I suppose that if you insulted his intergrity or his sacred relationship with his family that would do it. Terribly upsetting to me personally that small minded people would intentionally insult someone like Charles.

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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#11 posted 11-03-2010 03:14 PM

Hugs to you and rivergirl.Never take all this gossip seriously.I know you two are beautiful people.I don’t know what all have been said and I really don’t care about gossip and stuff.I just know that you two are great friends.
Now smile for us!

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#12 posted 11-03-2010 04:27 PM

Dear Charles, dear Rivergirl,
I think you have to continue, to just close your ears, this is the best you can do.
Charles, don’t listen we all know you here, you are a wonderful man, full of love life and a big heart to the others. Do not let the few destroy what we have here, this would brake my heart. I will stay who I am, no matter who write what, no one can change that, please follow me on this.
And just for the laughs: not only did Dennis and Flemming sleep at my place we even gave eachother a good night hug! Yes ofcourse we can send eachother gifts, and we can love one another, those who don’t like this are welcome to live the lonely lifes they will get.
I will even hereby send my love to those who make the gossip, they are probaly the one who needs it the most!
Love to both of you,

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#13 posted 11-03-2010 04:45 PM

I didn’t know this was going on.
Most emphatically, such insults and inuendo are inappropriate.
The LJs I have come to read and write about don’t do that.
Regardless of the situation, making accusations is terribly wrong and destructive.
Even if I thought someone was involved in a wrong relationship, I would NEVER mention it.
It’s none of my business.
If Charles or Rivergirl were close friends of mine, ones I can approach in person, I might talk privately, but never in public, never, never, never on the Internet.
Charles, allow one old man to encourage another, Show your detractors your best side.
Never allow them to tear you down.

Don “older than dirt” Butler

-- No trees were damaged in posting this message, but thousands of electrons were seriously inconvenienced.

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#14 posted 11-03-2010 05:03 PM


I think it’s great you are building a toolbox for Kelly. I didn’t think there was anything “bad” involved in this exchange of gifts. I don’t know either of you very well because I’ve not been a member here very long but I have been impressed by the obviously good personality of both of you that I have seen displayed in the postings you have both made.

Don’t let a small minded individual ruin your feelings for this site and for your project. It would not surprise me to find that whoever commented negatively must have been projecting what their own motivations would be if they were the ones involved in a gift exchange with a woman…

Keep up the great work and …

Be Careful!


-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!"

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#15 posted 11-03-2010 05:14 PM

Like others have commented, I’m not sure what transpired or what negative comments were directed towards you Charles, but I thought it was generous and kind that you were building Kelly a toolbox. I was looking forward to seeing the finished product.

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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