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Cabinet Progress #2: Quattromat Madness:

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Blog entry by gizmodyne posted 03-18-2007 07:26 AM 2591 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 1: Resawing Fir Part 2 of Cabinet Progress series Part 3: Doors for everyone! »

Tedious Task
We needed to mill at least 40 pieces of door components from our recycled douglas fir. This is time consuiming and back breaking.

Introducing the Quottromat
Our teacher allowed us to learn to use this awesome machine.

It S4S’s stock in one pass. First it planes and joints the stock and then surfaces and cuts to width.

The machine has a learning curve. If you don’t send long enough stock it will get stuck and chewed up.

So to prepare all of our stock we simply lightly planed one face and then ripped it 1/2” oversize on the bandsaw.


You can see the stock ready to be run through the machine. 2 minutes later it was done.
So this is how the big shops roll.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne



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BassBully

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#1 posted 03-18-2007 07:41 AM

What is the cost for this unit? This is one reason why I think I’ll keep woodworking as a hobby—How could I compete against stuff like this?

-- There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who can't!

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gizmodyne

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#2 posted 03-18-2007 07:54 AM

I think they cost around $24,000. That’s why the class is fun. For 120 bucks per semester I get to use this machine, a laguna resaw bandsaw, a 20” jointer, the altendorf sliding table saw, and a massive wide belt sander. Best deal ever.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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oscorner

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#3 posted 03-18-2007 10:21 AM

BassBully, don’t think like that. Quality work will out perform speed anytime. Just look at most funiture in the quick market and the quality equals something a kid could build or the materials are the cheapest available. I’m always amazed how much people will pay for that junk. That $24,000 machine cannot design a piece or imagine how to build one. So don’t forget that and keep making those masterpieces!

-- Jesus is Lord!

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#4 posted 03-18-2007 12:08 PM

Good point Os.
The artist and the craftsman lies behind a beautiful piece of furniture. This is simply a super-duper tool to get part of the job done quickly.

Giz. your class is definitely worth the money—just for the experience of using all of these tools. Of course, when the class is done and you go back to your regular shop you will have been spoiled and hate working on the small tools :)

It’s amazing what tools and equipment are out there. We simply have no idea!
“Mother of Invention” at work again.

Thanks for the taking and posting the pix Giz. So impressive.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#5 posted 03-18-2007 03:12 PM

It is true that some of the bigger tools can spoil you, but on the otherhand you get used to working on your own tools. I often bring my own router and always bring my own handtools to class. Also no waiting in line at home.

I hope that the Quattromat does not bring anyone down. oscorner is correct in comments about design, etc.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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#6 posted 03-18-2007 03:15 PM

my guess is that it wouldn’t bring anyone down any more than someone talking about owning some tool that is on a wish list – regardless of how expensive it is.

We are family. We celebrate your “luck”. More power to you!!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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gizmodyne

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#7 posted 03-18-2007 03:52 PM

Debbie. I was just pretending to care in the interest of being new.

Now I will say it proudly: I like machines! (and hand tools). I do think that people need to develop their own thing and learn to work within the limits of the tools they can access / afford.

But I for one am not really that interested in learning to S4S lumber by hand. (Well alright I do want to learn to flatten large panels.)

I stopped going to woodshows because to me they hawked a bunch of expesive jigs and “timesavers” that seem more like clutter. (Besides I ran out of room). :)

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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#8 posted 03-18-2007 03:55 PM

A fool with a tool is still a fool. The person’s knowlege is key. I would LOVE to take that class.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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MsDebbieP

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#9 posted 03-18-2007 03:59 PM

a fool with a tool.
that’s funny

Somebody’s a big tool lover and PROUD of it :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#10 posted 03-18-2007 04:03 PM

I love my tools too. However, most have capabilities that exceed my skill level.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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gizmodyne

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#11 posted 03-25-2007 08:12 PM

It doesn’t help to have a tool that you don’t understand. For the quattromat, you have to know how to s4s wood manually or the machine makes zero sense.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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#12 posted 04-03-2007 04:05 AM

John by s4s you do mean surface four sides…that is pretty basic woodworking. I’ve seen a lot of bankruptcy sales for woodworking companies who rely on these expensive machines.

BassBully…I have a small shop and compete quite easily against stuff like this.

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#13 posted 04-03-2007 04:34 AM

Yes Dennis. It is basic, but this saved us a lot of time.. Especialy passing through the planer and tablesaw 30+ pieces. It was fun.. We might use it to prepare our drawer stock.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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gizmodyne

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#14 posted 04-03-2007 04:35 AM

Plus…. the big shops turn out lots of bad design….that’s where they can’t compete.

-- -John "Do I have to keep typing a smiley? Just assume it's a joke." www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodyne

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WayneC

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#15 posted 04-03-2007 04:39 AM

I think I might s4s a board once with a handplane to say I did it. After that, back to the jointer/planer/table saw for me.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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