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Blog entry by Gary Fixler posted 270 days ago 725 reads 0 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Does anyone else – when working with black walnut – think it smells delicious? I just want to eat it whenever I’m cutting it. I was recently cutting out a ball blank from a glue-up of walnut, maple, and wenge, the latter two of which don’t really have a smell when cut. But the walnut! My dull band saw blade was more burning than cutting, and I was just about drooling all over the table. It smelled like warm cinnamon chocolate bread pudding. I almost ran to the bakery in defiance of my new year’s diet. What torture!

What other woods do you love to work with for the smell (or taste! :) alone? Which ones stink too much to enjoy?

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator


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brianinpa

1365 posts in 616 days


posted 270 days ago

Gary, it smells great but in my opinion the taste does not match the smell. For me I really like the smell of cedar.

-- Brian, Lebanon PA, If you aren’t having fun doing it, find something else to do.

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Scott Bryan

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posted 270 days ago

Another wood that has a nice odor to it when you work with it is cherry.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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socalwood

968 posts in 497 days


posted 270 days ago

wait until you try olive wood , sugar pine , or pinion pine – very pleasant . On the other hand, silk oak has put me in the hospital twice .

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Craftsman on the lake

813 posts in 331 days


posted 270 days ago

I like Gabarelli. It’s a wood found only here in Maine and near the Canadian border at that. It smells like cheese melted in a fondu kettle but only if the wood is cut wet. If it’s put dry on a jointer or planer it smells like shredded cheddar. When I’m done I just bury my face in the pile of shavings on the floor of the shop. That is until my wife comes in as she knows that I’m just full of it (ah.. not cheese).

I’ve dulled more planer blades than I care to mention producing enough for dinner engagements.

On a serious note… hand planing dry sitka spruce is a very woodworking sort of smell. Guitar makers know what I mean.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. http://web.me.com/deceiver6/Deceiver/Craftsman_on_the_lake/Craftsman_on_the_lake.html

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John Ormsby

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posted 270 days ago

Padauk has a slight chocolate smell. But, it is toxic and a respirator must be used.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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oldskoolmodder

707 posts in 573 days


posted 270 days ago

You’re not alone about Black Walnut. Does any other wood REALLY exist?

Unfortunately, I’ve tasted MUCH more MDF sawdust lately, and my palate is slightly off. Not good considering I’m a chef. hehehe

ok, so… Red Cedar is nice too, as is American Black Cherry & Apple.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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kiwi1969

600 posts in 335 days


posted 270 days ago

Years ago my dad turned a lidded bowl out of some New Zealand native ( not sure which one, it was a long time ago) and no matter what we did it stank of puke, seriously it was pungent and it just wouldn,t go away and the longer the lid was on the worse it got. Funny thing was customers in my dads craft shop would always lift the lids on bowls and smell them, not sure why people do that but we left the puke bowl on the shelf and it was always amusing watching their reactions after enjoying the smell of Kauri ,apple wood, pear and walnut when they lifted the lid on the puke bowl. That joke never got old. Funnily enough nobody ever bought it.
Personnely i,m a sucker for the smell of pine, spruce and fir, I guess thats from the years in sawmills.

-- if the hand is not working it is not a pure hand

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CessnaPilotBarry

1265 posts in 596 days


posted 270 days ago

I like walnut, cherry, pine, cedar, and ash. Basswood has a unique smell, too.

Oddly enough, my least favorites are white and red oak, but I seem to use them the most.

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sIKE

1094 posts in 647 days


posted 270 days ago

I love the smell of walnut in the morning….

-- //FC - Round Rock, TX - "Experience is what you get just after you need it"

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Gary Fixler

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posted 270 days ago

Brian – Agreed. The taste of the wood shavings was a big disappointment after that build-up :)

Scott – Good to know! I have yet to work in cherry. It’s been on the list for months.

Rob – Hadn’t heard of pinion pine, adding it to my list, and I’m quite curious about olive wood especially.

Daniel – your fancy ‘only in one part of Maine’ wood makes me realize even more the difficult task that lies ahead of me in collecting samples of every wood there is. I don’t find any hits on Google for the wood. Does it go by another name, or is it part of a larger species?

John – I have some padauk now – a 2’ plank from Rockler that’s been sitting around for awhile, waiting for a purpose (it was on sale). I’ll be curious to see how it smells when I finally cut into it. Thanks for the warning about the toxicity. It’s such a small piece, I probably would have mistakenly assumed it was safe.

Ric – seems like fruit trees by nature smell nice. I actually have 3 bundles of firewood from Home Depot and the grocery store that I wanted to practice resawing on, and see if I could make something nice out of them, and the HD bundle claims it might contain some fruit wood. It’s hard to identify quartered logs, but I have Bruce Hoadley’s book “Identifying Wood,” and am scouting for a small handheld miscroscope. I’m not giving up yet.

Kiwi – that’s great! I got 4 boxes of assorted hardwoods from Rockler earlier this year, and while going through, taking pictures, weighing them, making guesses as to what they might be while researching online (you know, being a wood geek), I found a few here and there that were just awful to smell, almost like you say. I wondered who would ever want to work in those woods, especially with any regularity.

Barry – I have had basswood strips, but never really cut into any bigger blocks of it. You’ve got me curious. I like pine, but at the same time, after awhile, it makes me a bit nauseous. It’s very nostalgic for me, as I built pretty much everything out of it in high school, but the other side of that coin is that I often feel really old when it reminds me of how much more fluidly I could dance around whatever I was building in that younger body :)

sIKE – nice :)

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator

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bentlyj

783 posts in 363 days


posted 270 days ago

Todays economy I have to go for the cheap high and use pine, but when the economy gets better I plan on getting some of that high dollar stuff. (walnut) :)

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teenagewoodworker

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posted 270 days ago

walnut, peruvian walnut, pine, cherry…. those are some of my favorites but ebony though is horrid. i can stand smelling the stuff

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Jarrod Zion Murphree

348 posts in 617 days


posted 270 days ago

HELL YES! I think it smells chocolatey and delicious.

Although I like the smell of pine, cedar, and cherry, none of them compare to the smell of walnut.

Regards, JM

-- Jarrod, Taos, NM http://jzmurphree.wordpress.com/

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ShopMonkey

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posted 270 days ago

I could lick a cedar or a walnut board. haha.

-- I like trees ...... as long as their by the board foot.

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JuniorJoiner

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posted 270 days ago

not sure about eating it, but you should try port orford cedar, sandalwood, and juniper.
I made a sandalwood burl box a few years ago, still smells amazing.(got the wood for 23 dollars in iran)

I also like putting some alaskan yellow cedar through the planer. I keep a bag of the shavings to throw some into the shopvac whenever i change the bag. that way it dosen’t make the room smell musty when it turns on.

I have exotics that smell awful though. I have some greenhart that smells like fueloil when i plane it.

unfortunately, smell is usually a low priority when choosing wood for a piece. also the best smelling are usually expensive. But a nice smelling object always brings a smile when handled(and they usually sell). So us woodworkers cherish making beautiful things from these woods.
just remember to keep a few for yourself

-- Junior -Quality is never an accident-it is the reward for the effort involved.

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Karson

25792 posts in 1294 days


posted 270 days ago

I can usually tell when cutting from the rosewood family. It has a very distinctive smell.

Of course I love red cedar. My cherry scraps go into the smoker for smoking meat.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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lazyfiremaninTN

528 posts in 846 days


posted 270 days ago

I love the smell of Walnut. I also have taken a liking to fresh cut cedar. I recently went to the cedar mill and got 3 beautiful pieces and have them drying on the top of my lumber rack. I have walked by the garage door and opened it just to smell the fresh cedar.

-- Adrian ..... The 11th Commandment...."Thou Shalt Not Buy A Wobble Dado"

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Gary Fixler

646 posts in 275 days


posted 270 days ago

bentlyj – You could just get 1bft of walnut, and keep sanding the end grain, taking hits off of that for your fix ;)

teenage – You’re the second person to tell me ebony stinks. I’m so very curious now. I think I have 4 turning blanks of that in an assortment from Rockler that’s been sitting around since the holidays waiting for me to get good enough on my mini lathe to warrant digging into them.

Jarrod – I’m wondering now about wooden ‘recipes.’ I.e. gluing up certain amounts and numbers of pieces of various fragrant wood types to create aromatic blends when, e.g., turned on the lathe that are practically irresistible to people who want to give me money :)

ShopMonkey – haha! nice.

JuniorJoiner – I know a bit about juniper smell. I have Hollywood Junipers in my back yard, and cut off a pretty big, sprawling limb to make room for a shed I built, and it was about 2.5” at its thickest. It looks amazing in cross-section, like a slice of ham. I cut it up around its small, burlish areas into fairly-straight turning blanks. I’m curious to see what I can get out of them when they finish air-drying.

Karson – I looked into rosewoods recently, and some are just gorgeous. The things I’ve seen made in them online fill me with a deep desire to improve my skills enough to warrant using them. Got me curious about the smell now, too. Also, I didn’t realize cherry was a good smoking wood. Thanks for the info!

Adrian – I got a box of hardwoods, and was stumped on one piece for awhile, looking things up, and then – as with all the pieces in the box – I smelled it. It was immediately identifiable – aromatic cedar! After that, I smelled each piece immediately when investigating it, though I wasn’t really familiar at that point with any other wood smells. I’ve been working to train myself while working in the shop to recognize the smells more quickly. It just feels right, like a captain knowing the sounds of his/her vessel. Oh, and the reason I was stumped by the cedar – it was amberish and yellowish-red. I didn’t realize those were the colors of cedar, as all the cedar I’d ever known – in ball and shake form – had always been purplish. I later read that there are a variety of fragrant trees masquerading as cedars for those kinds of applications (e.g. mothballs), and some of those are more purple. They aren’t cedar, IIRC, but have some shared properties. Also, I think fresh redcedar heartwood is purple, but fades more to tan. More on that. The juniper/cypress/cedar stuff really confuses me.

-- Gary, Los Angeles, video game animator

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joemick

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posted 270 days ago

I’m with some others, the smell of newly cut cedar floats my boat.

joemick

-- Joemick

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socalwood

968 posts in 497 days


posted 270 days ago

deodar cedar smells like blooming flowers

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Daren Nelson

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posted 270 days ago

I love the smell of walnut fresh on the sawmill as well as eastern red cedar, cherry, persimmon, sweet gum, honeylocust, sassafras, osage, mulberry, pecan, sugar maple…(I could go on) I don’t however like the smell of red oak, call me weird, but I just don’t enjoy it.

-- Urban logger, http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

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DaleM

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posted 270 days ago

I agree with Daren about the sassafras; I would have to call that my favorite although I’ve never made anything with it except wood chips for tea. How is it to work with? Has anyone made any projects with it? I don’t like red oak either. I think it actually smells pretty bad.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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Pie

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posted 269 days ago

Yeah the economy has me getting my wood high on pine but after reading all of this I might have to graduate to the harder stuff soon.

-- Pie

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David_Bethune

243 posts in 286 days


posted 269 days ago

Before I can give you an opinion, I’ll have to cut a chew or two and try it. Would you swallow it or use a spittoon? Dam I’m hungry now!

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