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Blog entry by gene posted 2212 days ago 2974 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

In my previous post I expected one question up front and to my great dismay, I did not get it. What does high gas prices have to do with the everyday woodworker? What is the tie-in?, or just what does this have to do with woodworking. Well it looks like I will have to volunteer the reasoning behind my dismay. I, for one, would like to see formed a Common Sense Advisory board to the President of the United States, made up of woodworkers such as yourself from all walks of life. Doctors, Lawyers, Electricians, Plumbers, Laborers, Truck drivers, Factory workers, Retiree’s etc. Why? Ask yourself this question. Doesn’t it seem like our government has completely lost touch with it’s people and no one there seem to process the least bit of common sense? Well, most of the woodworkers that I know and from the ones here on LJ’s do have one thing in common, “Common Sense” I feel that it is high time the people of this country have a little more control or at least have a way of showing their agreement or their disagreement with how things are going. One other thing, I must have to admit that I knew that you would agree with or disagree with me on my last post. But, out of about 200 or so views, There were only about 4 replies for which I also am most grateful . I guess , I had expected just a few more. Could it be, not as many of us care about what it is costing each of us, each time we fill up at the pump as I had previously thought. I will continue to contact our government and our representatives , even becoming a pain in their side, if that is needed to get something done about our energy problems and cost. May God bless each of you and your family’s, the United States , the rest of the World and may he also grant peace on earth.

-- Gene, a Christian in Virginia



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John Ormsby

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#1 posted 2212 days ago

Gene, I completely agree with you. I give these rats a lot of grief and they still don’t respond. Nothing will be done until we hit a MAJ|OR crisis. By major crisis, I mean that we will either be pushed into a depression or come very close to it. Americans have become way too complacent and prefer to let the rats decide our destiny. OUr 4th of July is supposed to be a celebration of our independence and freedoms we have inherited from our great forefathers. Instead, it is thought of as JUST another holiday. I still remember and abide by the phrase ” We The PEOPLE “

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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Eric

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#2 posted 2212 days ago

John, I appreciate your passion, but I think that calling 4,000+ members of the LumberJocks community “rats” might be pushing it a bit. The posting rules tell us to “criticize ideas, not people.” I think if we all do that, we’ll see a better response.

-- Eric at http://adventuresinwoodworking.com

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John Ormsby

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#3 posted 2212 days ago

I was referring to our wonderful do nothing legislators and the people who support them who are selling us down the drain.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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Eric

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#4 posted 2212 days ago

Oh! In that case, I apologize, John. I thought you were referring to Gene’s complaint that only 4 people had responded to his first post, although he had wanted more.

Still not sure about “rats” but I apologize for misunderstanding your comment.

-- Eric at http://adventuresinwoodworking.com

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gene

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#5 posted 2211 days ago

Hi! Eric,
I am sorry if you took my post as if I had wanted more. I guess that in my heart, I wanted more people to care as much as I do. There was in no way, any disrespect meant for any of the members here at LJ’s. As you can see from any of my previous posts, I care a lot about my friends here at LJ’s. And John, I would not call them rats, Simply misguided people, not in-touch with the peoples will.

-- Gene, a Christian in Virginia

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Eric

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#6 posted 2211 days ago

No, Gene, I did not take your tone to mean that you thought less of the Jocks here. I have seen enough of your posts and comments to know that you’re one of those who make LumberJocks the great place that it is.

I plan on watching your video at some point, but I am connection-ally challenged right now regarding the internet and have to wait for a better time to try to get it to load.

-- Eric at http://adventuresinwoodworking.com

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#7 posted 2211 days ago

No offense, but I think it’s common sense to know that everyone, woodworkers included are affected by the gas prices, food prices, airline prices, etc. Maybe that’s why not many people responded or came up with the questions “What does high gas prices have to do with the everyday woodworker? What is the tie-in?, or just what does this have to do with woodworking.” We know it all ties in. Price of gas goes up, so does the lumber prices, so do our charges to our clients, etc. etc.

As far as having a group of everyday people going to Washington or to the various state houses to bring some common sense into the mix, and we are speaking of course of the United States here (no disrepect to other countries who ARE SUFFERING WAY MORE THAN WE ARE), unless and until we can get everyone to simply case a ballot at each election it’s going to be hard to come up with such a group.

In addition, you forget that there are a lot of doctors and lawyers in Washington already. They are elected representatives. So in theory there should already be common sense in Washington.

Long and short there are no easy answers to the issues. I commend you for wanting to do something about it and I encourage you to continue doing so.

But I think the bottom line is it’s not going to change until Americans (again no disrepect to those of other countries) decide to vote not only at the ballot box but with their wallets.

One last thing and I’m going to let this one rest, what is common sense to one man is not necessarily common to another so who decides who’s common sense is more common sense like. And are we going to vote these people onto the committee—with our dismal voting numbers that’s going to be a difficult hurdle to cross.

Just my two cents.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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CharlesNeil

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#8 posted 2211 days ago

defining common sense…..balancing a checkbook…..a-b=c….c should be a +..if not you have to adjust b….thats common sense…..and the goverment has yet to achieve this concept….

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#9 posted 2211 days ago

I think that the number of people that would have to act on this would be pretty high to get it to work. It would be an all or nothing thing. 10 people act, nothing happens. You somehow get to a few million, maybe something. I think incremental steps make more sense. If everyone slows down, carpools, hangs laundry up to dry, checks tire pressure, switches to compact florescents, recycles, composts, buys local, buys less junk, turns off a computer when it isn’t in use, etc. we could make a difference, whether it is one person or many. American all want some magic bullet, but life doesn’t work that way.

Almost every one of the suggestions above is neglected by the average American, but they would have a dual impact if people REALLY cared. You spend less, and if energy demands lessens, things cost less in the long run too. I think that makes more sense. I applaud your efforts, but personally, I couldn’t switch to a 4 day week. I worked 8am to 9pm today. I’m not ready to increase that workday by 25%. I also still want to be able to go out to eat on a Friday, or go to the grocery store, have doctors offices open, etc. Most businesses can’t close 1 day a week. You can say that we should close the office buildings, but then who answers the phone when you have a customer service complaint or want to apply for a mortgage? I love the idea of 4 day workweeks. Many companies do it voluntarily and if mine offered it, I’d do it when I could. I just don’t think it is reasonable to force businesses to operate on a set time schedule.

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daveintexas

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#10 posted 2209 days ago

Well I think most people concider the gas prices kinda like the weather, you cant do anything about either one so why ruin a day worring about it.
I have seen emails circulated about not buyng gas on certain days, boycotting certain brands etc. Its not going to happen. Americans have gotten so used to being mobile, getting in their car and going, that nothing is going to change their minds. I see just as many cars on the road now as there was two years ago.
It is nice to see in polls that that the american public thinks less of congress then it ever did, and that the people in congress are only concerned about their jobs. But it still wont change till we have something drastic happen. IE a major war, depression etc.
IMHO, if the government wants to turn the tide they need to implement a national health plan and raise the minimum wage by three dollars. Which should in effect raise everybodys wages and then we can afford the higher gas, food, comidity prices.

Off my soapbox now.

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gene

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#11 posted 2209 days ago

Thanks to everyone that has taken the time to read my post and watched my video. And especially those who have responded. I promise that my next post will be on something of a lighter note and more in line with woodworking. I have been remodeling and updating the shop. I am Hoping that it will help in selling the house when we get it ready to list in a few weeks.
Photos to come.
God bless

-- Gene, a Christian in Virginia

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