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Who isn’t a desperate woodworker!

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?



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lanwater

3075 posts in 1537 days


#1 posted 1380 days ago

I do not know the answer to you question.

My experience with Delta support was disapointing at best.
They follow the flemsy manual and the usual script.

Get a hold of their local onsite tech. Those are subcontractors that do all the onsite repair for Delta.
They usually get much more exposure than the people who answer the phones.
Delta will give you the number to the local rep and mine did not mind answering my question.

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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a1Jim

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#2 posted 1380 days ago

Hey Christopher
I don’t own a Delta jointer I own a Grizzly and importer with great customer service for 3? decades.
Since I don’t have a answer I suggest you contact a local repair center that handles Delta and talk to a tech, since your not getting answers elsewhere. I know my local repair center is great that way. You could even try calling the them “Oregon tool supply in Roseburg Oregon. and ask for the tool repair center supervisor

I guess lanwater and I were posting at the same time

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Popsnsons

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#3 posted 1380 days ago

Here is a link that may help. http://www.deltaportercable.com/ServiceAndSupport/ServiceCenters.aspx

-- Pops ~ In So Cal...

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KayBee

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#4 posted 1380 days ago

Most of us can only dream of a 12” jointer. Most likely why you’re not getting many responses. You might also think about getting knives from someone else and sending the big ones back to delta. There are quite a few companies/small shops that make replacement blades.

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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John Ormsby

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#5 posted 1380 days ago

Below are 2 links. The first one is actual Delta parts sheets. You will notice that part # 121 ( 37-363 ) is discontinued and no longer available. The second link is to a site that sells replacement knives for your jointer.

You might want to give them a call and have them measure the knives to make sure they are 12” exactly.

You can have most any machine shop cut your existing knives shorter in order to get the machine operating for now.

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/delta-37361-dj30-jointer-parts-c-3275_7655_7657.html

http://toolsandmore.us/delta-37-363-jointer-knives.aspx

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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William

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#6 posted 1380 days ago

I’m afraid I didn’t answer your original question because I’ve never had any dealings with that particular planer. Sine it seems noone else has either, I thought I may not be out of line by offering some other little piece of advice.
I did once have a Craftsman planer that had pretty much the same problem. The original knives were exactly six inches. The replacements that were ordered through Sears came to me st six and an eighth of an inch. I installed them out of curiousity and rotated the assemblt by hand to see if it would work. The replacement knives were hitting the bearing housing on each side, so that definately would not work. I sharpened the originals while I went on a lengthy search for the right replacements.
Since they had to be six inches exactly with a knotch cut into the back side (don’t ask me why, but I wanted the correct ones after buying one set of replacements that were useless to me), Noone seemed to be able to help. I, like you probably feel right now, surely didn’t want to buy replacement blades just to have to go pay more money to have them cutat a machine shop. That idea didn’t make sence to me.
Ok, now that I’ve explained the situation to you, now I’ll tell you what I done about it.
In the end I just cut out the middleman and just had the machine shop make me a set of knives. They actually came out to be cheaper than the Sears replacements anyway.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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Bluepine38

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#7 posted 1380 days ago

I have an older 1950s model Delta jointer and and lathe and Delta has been real helpful, providing me with
owners manuals on line and answering questions on line. The jointer is a 6” jointer, buth the original blades
are 6-1/8”, but unlike yours, I have plenty of room between the bearing housings for them to fit. I also have
a real good tool store here in town that I have dealt with for many years that helps all its customers. Have
you tried going on line at the Delta Machinery-PorterCable website, clicking on About Us in the header, then
click on Contact Us Online, then click on Ask a Question. Fill in the model and serial number of your machine
and ask the question about the knives. They have always answered me withing 24 hours during the business
week and the answers have always been helpful. Hope this will help you. I have rebuilt the Delta 6” jointer
which I picked up badly abused and rusty at a garage sale for $50.00 with help from this Delta site. Hope
you will be able to get yours going soon.

As ever, Gus the 71 yr young laborer, trying to become a carpenter’s apprentice

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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flatboarder

99 posts in 1459 days


#8 posted 1380 days ago

good morning peoples I do thank you for all the advice. Perhaps I should have been more informative on what I have done and what I know. I do appologize for that. I researched just about every jointer before I made a decision on what to purchase. Unfortunatly simple things as the knives I overlooked. I couldn’t have imagined that this would have been a issue on a new machine. I was told from my dealer that tis machine was used at a wood show and that it couldn’t be sold as new so they called it a factory recoditioned machine. Whatever I saved over 1,500 so i thought that I couldn’t go wrong. I have talked with delta several times before and after I bought the machine a couple of weeks ago. I just recieved the new knives last Friday and I didn’t notice the problem until after working hours at delta. i bought this machine because I had a PM PJ882HH Helical cutter head 8” I bought it new from Powermatic. After two years of beautiful use one day it started cutting a concave in the boards. I called a tech to come out and he tried but couldn’t get it right. Long story short PM gave me my $ back. Probably because I bought 10 other machines from them at the same time. Table saw, Shaper, Mortiser,Lathe, Planer,Drill Press, Jointer,router table and router lift, Two air filtration systems and alot of assecories. Band saw is a MIni max MM16 anyway I got this delta because of the deal and the size. It seemed reasonable. The knives that came with the machine were coming apart. Some IDIOT that put the knives on cross threades almost every locking bar “gib” screw I had to get a 21” cheater bar to get them off. So the guys at Delta sent me new locking Bars “gibs’ as some peopls call them. New screws and new knives at no charge. This is when this problem occured. It’s been four months now since my other jointer broke. I t took over three months to get Powermatic to get right. That right there changed my opinnion of them forever. They had been wonderful in the past. I have seen alot of changes in their service dept since the change over from WMH tool group to Walter meier. I believe that they will drop thier service dept just like everybody else is doing. Our country is being sold to the highest bidder. And the highest bidder is overseas. If you dont believe me just call any company and try and get a polite person on the phone. everybody lies just to sell something and then when the sell is over well then so are you. Anyway back to the knives I was hoping to find somone who had this jointer that knew what I was experiencing. Thanks for your replies and I hope to talk to all of you and become friends we need this in this country.

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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Walt M.

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#9 posted 1380 days ago

On my jointer (old craftsman) the knives are longer than the holder that they sit in. After finding a manual online it said to set the knives up so you could also do rabbet operations on it. Which I don’t know who came up with that idea since it’s a little dangerous in my opinion and I have a dado set or router to do that operation.

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Bearpie

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#10 posted 1379 days ago

I see a simple solution, simply head to a grinder and grind off the offending extra length and put a cove you need on it and install it. Are you afraid of voiding the warranty by doing modifications? What do you think they will do when they finally figure out what to do? They will do what I suggested. Problem solved.

Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

-- Erwin, Jacksonville, FL

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flatboarder

99 posts in 1459 days


#11 posted 1379 days ago

thats great advise I wasnt worried about the warranty. I just didn’t want to put the wrong knife on there. I wasn’t sure what they were built for. I’m not seasond enough to know the difference between all the knives and so I’m a little scared. I’ve already been popped in the HEAD once by a flying peice of Black Walnut from my table saw and Man that _ P hurt. It felt like a .22 calibur. Nope dont want to repeat that deal. Thats exactly what I did Barry I’m still trying to install them on the machine. Hopefullly tommorow. thanks

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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flatboarder

99 posts in 1459 days


#12 posted 1379 days ago

yeh I got that figured out yestarday after speaking with the gentleman at Delta Thanks for the reply your absolutly right about the fence I’ll probably never use the rabbit i just didn’t want to put the wrong knives on the machine. If I ever did want to use it I would take the knives off and grind a 40 degree bevel on the side.

-- Ive cut this board three times and its still too short?

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