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Around the Shop #1: Walker Turner 16"Bandsaw. The things that dreams are made of.

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Blog entry by Don W posted 08-15-2012 07:39 PM 7142 reads 2 times favorited 46 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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A few week ends ago I went to a tool auction. I went home with a few items, but the one of real consequence was the Walker Turner 16” Bandsaw. As best as I can tell, this was made sometime between 1938 and 1948. Its got a 22-639 serial number, which it seems Walker Turner put on a lot of stuff around that time. Some information seems to indicate its closer to 1948.

Its a BN1135 16” Wood, built 1939 to 1948 (Discontinued 1948): serial 22-639
Mine will take a blade between 113”” and 117, so I have purchased a 114” blade. Not common, not uncommon, but at least not a special order.

I’m going to list a few helpful web pages, just in case you’re looking here for the same reason.
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5562
http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/WalkerTurnerSerialNumbers.ashx
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/bandsaw-blade-length.aspx
http://devwiki.owwm.com/(S(lv3z1j45rqix2b45drf1m445))/History.aspx?Page=WalkerTurnerSerialNumbers&Revision=10
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=14045
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=8166
http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/

The only thing mine seems to be missing is the tilt mechanism. I found its common for these to break and I also found one that was made.
http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/WalkerTurnerBandsawTableTiltBracketReproduction.ashx

I sent an email to wtsmllc@juno.com which is Walker Turner Serviced Machinery LLC, PO Box 666, Coventry, CT 06238. They quoted me the price on a new tilt mechanism. A new mechanism is just under $300.

I’ve decided at this point not to repaint the bandsaw. I may change my mind at some point, but the paint isn’t that bad. I’ve scrubbed it down and given it a coat of BLO to help protect it. But the rust is very minor and I’ve wire brushed the worst of it. At the current rat of deterioration, my great great great great grandkids may have something to worry about, but I doubt I will.

I’ve added a new set of tires.

These gave me a little problem. I thought the urethane tires didn’t need to be glued. After installing them, the top one began to walk off the wheel. All I had was spray 3M adhesive, so I figured I better do both tires. After gluing them, and waiting the 30 minutes the 3M can said it would take, I tried again. Now the bottom started to walk. I took it back apart and re-glued it and waited until the next morning to try again. This time it was good to go.

I ordered the tires from Peach Tree Woodworking supply. The price was about $35 for a set, everywhere else they seemed to be $35 each.

Next I went to to http://www.toolcenter.com/ and ordered a blade. This is the one I purchased.
87549-FLB9-2895 LENOX 114 in (9 ft 6 in) x 1×035 x 3 tpi H, R, FB

I also took all of the misc parts off, wire brushed them, checked the bearings, lubéd them all up really well and put them back together.

I’ve resawn 2 pieces so far. Both went fairly well. I suppose at some point I may upgrade to a new motor. The original motor looks to be a 3/4 hp. I say looks to be because the tag is pretty hard to read. It could use some more power.

this

split to this

And this 6”piece of Ash split a little harder.

I’ve still got a few things to do. I’ll either make or buy a fence. I’m not to concerned about the tilt mechanism. I’ve had my Central Machinery Bandsaw for 20 years and don’t think I’ve ever tilted it. I’ve got the table clamped flat right now. I’ve got a Permanent search set up on ebay as well. My guess is I’ll end up building one.

I’ll add some casters so I can slide it against the wall as well.

I need to run new wires, the existing is getting a little frayed, but I’m deciding if I want to play some musical motors and take a 3 hp off the shaper, put something else on the shaper. Probably put the original 3/4 hp back on the Central Machinery.

So far I’ve got $100 into the saw, $35 into the tires and $25 into the blade. I think I did ok.

Thanks for stopping by.

dw

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com



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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 08-15-2012 07:47 PM

That is Sweeeeet, Don. You can bet they just don’t make ‘em like that any more!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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chrisstef

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#2 posted 08-15-2012 08:11 PM

Once again Don i lust your rust. You going to dedicate it as your resawing bandsaw? Coventry is only abut 20 minutes from me and i would love to check out the WT shop, i had no idea it existed.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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Don W

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#3 posted 08-15-2012 08:28 PM

yes, it’ll be set up as a resaw. My central machinery will be my “cut the curves” (in other words, totes) saw. The scroll/jig saw I just set will be….....well, ........ extra.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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carguy460

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#4 posted 08-15-2012 08:36 PM

Lol! Lust your rust!!!

Sweet tool, Don…its not every day that I can tell a man that without getting strange looks from people!

-- Jason K

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DaddyZ

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#5 posted 08-15-2012 08:54 PM

Very Cool… That is about all I use my Central Macheniry saw for (resaw)

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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Jamie Speirs

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#6 posted 08-15-2012 11:00 PM

Don that is a nice find

A heavy bandsaw cant be beat

I’ve been looking out for an old

cast chassis for ages. I use the tilt

all the time, I’ve thought of a second

saw just for the tilt.

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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bhog

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#7 posted 08-15-2012 11:38 PM

Another lol at lust your rust.
Not sure if I should give you a you suck or not,so Ill just leave that out ;)~

Don ,you have a knack (luck) for finding the deals.You did very well my friend.

-- I don't drive a Prius.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#8 posted 08-16-2012 12:10 AM

Wow, excellent. I covet your bulk lumber capabilities even more now…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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gfadvm

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#9 posted 08-16-2012 01:07 AM

Now that is some very nice vintage iron!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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OggieOglethorpe

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#10 posted 08-16-2012 01:11 AM

Very nice example of heavy ‘urn…

Enjoy!

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ShaneA

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#11 posted 08-16-2012 01:32 AM

Great score at an even better price. What is the resaw capacity on the machine? Looks pretty high from the pics. No new paint job for your new saw? come on Don, slap a little color on there : )

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lysdexic

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#12 posted 08-16-2012 02:28 AM

I just love the logos on these older machines. They seem to have so much more style than contemporary badging.

-- It isn't the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it's the pebble in your shoe. - Muhammad Ali

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Mauricio

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#13 posted 08-16-2012 02:53 PM

Don, great saw. Wow you got it for $100? Nice score. What is the max width of cut? Looks pretty good.

I’ve never heard of putting BLO on metal, interesting…

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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Don W

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#14 posted 08-16-2012 03:25 PM

resaw capacity is just a tad over 11 1/2”.

Shane, I’ve been telling myself that not repainting was not due to plain laziness. You’re not helping. :-)

Mauricio, think of BLO like windex in My big fat greek wedding. Actually BLO will help remove rust. Old timers used it. I actually used it on my very first plane restore. It doesn’t work very well compared to evapo-rust, believe me, but it will protect. It’s know for being used on outside tools, both wood and metal parts.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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AnthonyReed

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#15 posted 08-16-2012 04:11 PM

Great score Don, she is a beaut. Well done. Congratulations!

-- ~Tony

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