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Planes restored - Because I can. #6: Typing your plane, oh the dilemma

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Blog entry by Don W posted 1027 days ago 1492 reads 1 time favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 5: #7 - more of the story - fixing the cap iron. Part 6 of Planes restored - Because I can. series Part 7: Sharpening. Its all in your head. »

I’m writing this to help everyone avoid some of the confusion I have encountered trying to buy parts for a particular plane. For me it started with an early #3 i bought with a broken frog.

First I went to this Plane dating flow chart 1-20. It works ok, but a lot of information is on the part of the frog I didn’t have. Also you never know if all the parts (particularly the iron) is original.

I had purchased this replacement frog for my #3 of of ebay.

But this is was what mine is”

Notice the legs are shorter

The nice thing about The RexMill site is it has pictures.

So I knew mine didn’t have the frog adjustment screw, but didn’t realize there was more to it when I ordered the replacement frog. At this point I still didn’t really know if it had a lateral adjustment or not.

In comparing it seemed to be a type 4 or 5. A look at the iron showed “Stanley” in a straight line instead of a curve, which should represent a type 5.

So I’ve been waffling back and forth between a 4 (without a lateral adjustment) or a 5 (with a lateral adjustment). I am currently under the impression its a type 5.

The other information that is a bit misleading is whether the number is stamped in the bed. Apparently a type 5 had the number stamped in the bed, and mine did not. Further research lead me to understand that the number may not have been stamped in the 2’s and 3’s. Again, it could be a 5.

Off to compare feature on the Stanley Plane Features Timeline MegaChart. This chart is amazing. It should help narrow down the type even more.

So I guess its a 4 or a 5, and if I find a replacement frog with an lateral adjustment that fits it will make it a type 5, if I find one without, it’ll wind up a 4, although my goal would be to keep it original if I know what that means. Any further insight would be greatly appreciated. In the mean time, it works just fine with the broken frog.

I love working as a “plane” mechanic, and this will not deter me at all. The more I learn, the more fun it becomes.

Hope this helps
dw

References: (also see my Plane reference blog)
Rexmills type Study
antique-used-tools.com frog comparison

Plane dating flow chart

Brass City quick plane ID

Stanley Plane Features Timeline MegaChart

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)



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WayneC

11996 posts in 2598 days


#1 posted 1027 days ago

I would leave it the way it is. It is a wonderful old plane as it sits.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Brit

4919 posts in 1343 days


#2 posted 1027 days ago

I agree with Wayne Don. Lateral adjustment levers are over-rated. You will get far more accuracy and finer adjustment using that little brass mallet to tap the side of the blade when it needs adjustment.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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RGtools

3257 posts in 1155 days


#3 posted 1027 days ago

Pretty.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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bigike

4028 posts in 1789 days


#4 posted 1027 days ago

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, but in your case if it’s broke and still works don’t fix it! LOL

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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Don W

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#5 posted 1027 days ago

See, I know you’re right, but I just couldn’t leave it alone. I’ll use it until I find one, but it will get fixed. It has to, it just has to!

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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Don W

13928 posts in 1068 days


#6 posted 1026 days ago

the one picture here is a #3

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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Bertha

12942 posts in 1194 days


#7 posted 1026 days ago

Lateral adjusters are for men without hammers. Screw it. It’s handsome as it sits. I’ve got a pretty #3 myself that might get his picture taken tonight.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Don W

13928 posts in 1068 days


#8 posted 1026 days ago

“Lateral adjusters are for men without hammers” says the man on a frog mission a while back. That mission is still being talked about today. It was a dangerous mission, but you went with all guns ready. < sounds of chuckling as I’m typing>

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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WayneC

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#9 posted 1026 days ago

There were frogs that lost their life on that mission. We need to establish a tomb of the unknown frog or something similar…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Don W

13928 posts in 1068 days


#10 posted 1026 days ago

its ever immortalized in Al’s profile picture, but I can image the trend. The next picture will be the frog and the pup, then just the pup and the frog will be just a distant memory.

-- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m)

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WayneC

11996 posts in 2598 days


#11 posted 1026 days ago

I thought about doing a obiturary for Sargent “Rock”, born in New england almost 115 years ago was peened in action earlier this month….

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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