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Blog entry by dlcarver posted 03-12-2008 03:50 PM 1171 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Greetings to all you LUMBERJOCKS!

I have been receiving so much feedback on my carvings, I felt the need to thank everyone in a general reply. There is just too many to reply to personally. If some one asks me a question I will try to answer it. Sometimes I lose emails and sometimes it just takes me a while to get back to someone. I am a very busy JOCK, so please be patient.
I need to say something hear about my talents. They are strictly GOD GIVEN! Without HIM I really can do nothing. He makes things work….. especially when I am stumped, and I make a special request of HIM. He pulls me through every time.

-- Dave Leitem,Butler,Pa.,

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#1 posted 03-12-2008 04:45 PM

Well said. And you are welcome too.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#2 posted 03-12-2008 10:06 PM

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#3 posted 03-13-2008 03:43 AM

thanks for the great words. i believe that it’s all true what you just said. i love your carvings. they are so nice and lifelike. keep up the great work

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#4 posted 03-13-2008 05:01 AM

Well said!! As for religion, well it’s not about a religion, it’s a relationship

-- Pretzel L8agn

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#5 posted 03-13-2008 02:01 PM

Dave, I admire your work, and I am glad you acknowledge your gift.

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#6 posted 03-13-2008 07:51 PM

Hi Dave,

Great work! I am very impressed with your work. Please feel free to express yourself, it is a part of you are.

I find it hard to comprehend how someone who has been on this site for less than 30 days can speak for “most” of us here. Now I do not think posting a sermon here is the apporpreate place to do that, but I think that expressing who you are is a part of what this site is about. This site has a history of allowing people expressing who they are and a part of that is what they believe. For example, just look at oscorner’s profile, you will find it in the “in Memorium” section of the Members profiles. I find that comment akin to walking into someone’s house and asking them to take down the cross or other religious emblem that they have hanging on their wall in their home. If someone wants be a member of a community, they cannot expect to be well received when the are rude and belittle the beleifs of others in that community.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

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#7 posted 03-13-2008 10:00 PM

Great work Dave. Just fantastic. Welcome to LJ.

And I disagree heartily with Ingemar—I believe he owes you & all the jocks an apology.

If your inspiration comes from your spiritual being you’ve the right to share that.
We’re all encouraged to tell the story of our creations and that’s exactly what you did.
It belongs here, you’ve a right to tell it, and for someone to be so rude is amazingly ugly to me.


-- Gary, Florida

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#8 posted 03-13-2008 11:06 PM

Apparently, god can make you carve like the wind, but spelling seems to be a challenge for him….

You religious fanatics are something else…..Here’s something to ponder the next time you are asking god to help with a woodworking task; Osama Bin Laden feels every bit strongly about his religion as you do, unfortunately for him I guess, he was born under the wrong flag….

Make no mistake, the ‘war on terror’ is more simply, the ‘war on religion’, but the media won’t say it. Not until this divisive curse of man is wiped from the planet will we have true peace.

I’m sick of giving someone’s supernatural belief system a wide berth. They deserve no more consideration than someones political beliefs.

Here’s another suggestion, the world is filled with wonder and beautiful places. In every corner of the universe, under every leaf on a tree, you will find something more splendid than before. Put down the bible/torah/koran for a minute and READ about how and why things work instead of accepting some 2000 year old dogma’s word for it. I promise you, the elegance, beauty and simplicity is breathtaking.


-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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#9 posted 03-14-2008 02:08 AM


I really don’t want to get into long drawn out discussion on this topic. Here is my point and perhaps I was not clear enough for you. No one has the right to deny any other member the ability to express themselves. Nor do they have the right to be rude or belittle another member for their beliefs. I am sorry if I didn’t make that clear before. You have expressed your understanding of the universe and will not attack you for that. I don’t think any other Christian here would either. Please extend the same courtesy that you would any one else you meet on the street or visit their home.

If we show each other kindess and respect, it will be a much better place.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

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#10 posted 03-15-2008 04:06 PM

I will not extend that ‘courtesy’ Greg. For starters, this is a private site, not a soapbox so ideally, none of us should be imparting supernatural belief systems or spreading their cults on this fine woodworking site.

Second, I apologize that the mountains of data that hundreds of thousands of scientists have gathered since the dawn of (wo)man do not agree with a book written in the Bronze Age. Did you know that several studies indicate that slightly over 50% of Americans truly believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old? That coincides, on the actual timeline, roughly with the domestication of the dog.

This to me sir is frightening and concerns me deeply. So when I see this rhetoic tossed around as fact, I feel it incumbent on me to comment. In my opinion, ‘respecting someone’s beliefs’ when it concerns these matters is akin to turning your back on religious extremism (fundamentalism) in America, something which I am not prepared to do. This reminds me of a quote by Steven Weinberg, pasted for your perusal below. I just wish that America would wake up, have the courage to ask the hard questions, stop accepting the old doctrines of the past and read a variety of books besides one which encourages not the suspension of reason, but rather raises our collective consciousness so that we may advance our species as the caring and curious creatures we are.

“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Good day to you all,


-- Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -Carl Sagan

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#11 posted 03-17-2008 06:30 AM


-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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