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Initial Base Unit Design

I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.

This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.



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PurpLev

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#1 posted 1769 days ago

model looks good- one thing – it seems you have a different component for each of the drawer dividers? why not use the same component and make copies of it? (you do have copies on the left and right -but the bottom and top dividers are different components).

another personal preference of mine is in regard to the height of the bed- my workbench is ~34” and I wouldn’t want to sleep that hight ;)

actually my previous bed was ~30” high , and had storage pullout shelves underneath – I never really cared much for it and replaced it with a new bed which is ~13” off the floor (top of mattress) which is much more inviting.

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depictureboy

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#2 posted 1769 days ago

yea, I guesstimated the height of the bed, ours right now is kind of high its got that whole 18 inch european mattress thing going on…Once I remember to take a tape measure to bed with me(did I really just say that?) ill get the right measurement for the bed height…

Actually the drawer dividers are copies, but the rails and stiles are also separated components, it works out ok for cutlist…

thanks purplev

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.

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jlsmith5963

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#3 posted 1769 days ago

It is not possible to provide a full design critique for a project that is in such an early stage of development. So instead I offer the following design questions for your consideration:

Is the back panel that projects above the various parts suppose to act as a datum for the rest of the unit and if so should it also project beyond the sides? Also, why does it have a thickness beyond a 3/4” material thickness?

With bed set at the same height as the lower parts of the wall unit, how will the bedding and the base of the bed work with the rest of the design?

As currently massed the whole unit reads as twin units flanking a bed with a ‘bridge’ sandwiched between the twins. Is this the reading you desire? There are other massings that could be used. For example one alternate could have the ‘bridge’ spanning the entire distance across the unit. Another could be a ‘post and beam’ where the ‘bridge’ is extended so that it is wider than the bed and rests on a ledge in each of twin units.

Is the height between the top of the bed and the bottom of the ‘bridge’ enough to allow someone to sit up in bed? Does the height and the projection of the ‘bridge’ pose any head clearance problems when getting in and out of bed?

Is lighting to be integrated into the design?

Where does things like the alarm clock go and will you be able to see it (and hit the snooze button) without having to actually move?

Good luck as you move forward with the project.

-- criticism: the art of analyzing and evaluating the quality of an artistic work...

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depictureboy

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#4 posted 1768 days ago

Is the back panel that projects above the various parts suppose to act as a datum for the rest of the unit and if so should it also project beyond the sides? Also, why does it have a thickness beyond a 3/4” material thickness?

I am assuming you mean on the overall plan and not the individual cabinet plan. That is the bedroom wall.

With bed set at the same height as the lower parts of the wall unit, how will the bedding and the base of the bed work with the rest of the design?

I have to actually take a tape measure to the bed and ge the actual dimensions, I was going of the measurements for a queen mattress, and my man sense for what the height was….(you know things are bigger or longer than they really are)

Is the height between the top of the bed and the bottom of the ‘bridge’ enough to allow someone to sit up in bed? Does the height and the projection of the ‘bridge’ pose any head clearance problems when getting in and out of bed?

Again I have to do some serious measurement there. My reason for posting so early is that I really need some help or ideas for the cabinet. I am looking for feedback on how to do the face frames, if I should use face frames…how they should be setup…etc….Right now my stretchers are plywood, I was planning on using a faceframe on the cabinet, but wasnt real confident in how to start it out…thus the reason for my posting.

The massing was just to give an idea of what I was going for…

Is lighting to be integrated into the design?

Where does things like the alarm clock go and will you be able to see it (and hit the snooze button) without having to actually move?

Lighting is going to be integrated into the bridge. The alarm clock situation Ill address as the design evolves.

Thanks for the excellent critique…that is what I was really hoping for.

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.

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DaneJ

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#5 posted 1768 days ago

Here are my 2c:
1. The bed seems too high, no chance of sitting on the edge with your feet on the floor.
2. I think most night stands are a few inches below the bed surface; you would not want a glass of water tipping over onto the bed.
3. There should be an open space between the bottom unit and upper, if you opened a door with that glass of water it would be knocked over, as well as any reading material, not to mention the watch, glasses, change, and wallet.
4. If you put glass doors, like a barrister bookcase, in the upper bridge you could put the clock etc up there.
5. Seems like you have the bottoms as 2 side-by-side units, if you made the outer one full depth and full height, you would have more drawer space and possibly a pair of doors in the upper third. The winters here require sweaters, for that reason, I would mix the drawers making a few big(deep) ones for those sweaters and sweatshirts.

-- Dane, Fairview Pk, OH. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away...

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depictureboy

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#6 posted 1768 days ago

Dave, ooooooh, I know why you guys keep saying that…See I did make instances of a single web frame…but then for my sizing(I have adjusted the widths a few times) I used freescale which makes everything unique…I just realized that finally…

oh yea about the textures….I knew to do that too, but since I am only “really” using textures just to coordinate my parts for cutlist I dont really worry about the grain directions and such…

Thanks all for the advice and criticisms…ill get that tape measure to the bedroom yet….

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.

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depictureboy

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#7 posted 1768 days ago

1. The bed seems too high, no chance of sitting on the edge with your feet on the floor.

Hehe…I cant do that now….Our bed is really high as it is right now…between the frame, the boxspring, the mattress and the pillowtop…

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.

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Huckleberry

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#8 posted 1768 days ago

OK now that I have retooled the wheel, I will put in my input on this project. First off face frame or euro style. That is a matter of taste and willingness to build a piece. My input would be to make your drawer boxes the “euro” style so that as you get along in this project you are not held by limitations that you have already set in play. Use some nice 3/4” plywood and build you some sturdy boxes for drawers. And I build my base cabinets a little different in the fact that I make the cabinet without the toe kick. I make it separate as to me and my guys it is easier to level a toe kick than it is to keep moving a cabinet.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm15/Huckleberry4664/Untitled.jpg

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jlsmith5963

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#9 posted 1768 days ago

As you move forward in the development of the design below are some questions that might help you determine the (sometime) dreaded question ‘what should it to look like’.

Aesthetic questions
Do you want the design to follow a particular style?
Do you already have (or own) a precedent that you want to follow?
Does the basic design suggest or eliminate a style(s)?

Skills/technique questions
Do you want (need) the construction of the design to use your current set of skills and/or tools?
Do you want to use the design to develop new skills?
Does the amount of time (or schedule) you have limit your choice of designs?
How does the budget effect the design?

Of course answering these questions won’t produce a design but it might help you focus on what direction to take. Good Luck.

-- criticism: the art of analyzing and evaluating the quality of an artistic work...

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depictureboy

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#10 posted 1768 days ago

yea, I wasnt going for a toe kick…but If i did, I would build a separate bottom…that is what I have read in the cabinet books I have read so far.

-- If you can't build it, code it. If you can't code it, build it. But always ALWAYS take a picture.

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