LumberJocks

Table saw upgrade #1: Planning

  • Advertise with us
Blog entry by dedalo posted 06-21-2010 04:56 PM 3154 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
no previous part Part 1 of Table saw upgrade series Part 2: Proof of concept »

Hi! everyone! I’m planning / building an upgrade to my table saw. I live in argentina so tools are very expensive, I started with a chinese very “cheap” table saw (usd 200+) and now I’m trying to upgrade it. I live so far the states that importing a complete incra system is out of the question. So started with some alluminium profiles to build something like 80/20 I saw here. I cannot get the slider systema around. Now the plan is to mix the profiles I have with an incra positioner and buy only that part.

Here is a photo of the future system as planned. I also uploaded to sketchup an incra miter channel, maybe some can find it usefull.

imagen sketchup
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d35365e9f90032f0349050658d15ffeb

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com



16 comments so far

View Howie's profile

Howie

2656 posts in 2385 days


#1 posted 06-21-2010 05:13 PM

If you are using the Incra concept or system you do not need the rails on each end of the fence. Depending on how large of projects you plan, Incra has a “beginners” system that the rail and fence is only 99 bucks U.S. Don’t know anything about import fees etc but it isn’t that expensive. I do know getting stuff thru customs can be a issue sometimes. My daughter lives in Ecuador.
If it turns out to be prohibitive, build yourself a really good fence(not hard).
Just a suggestion.

-- Life is good.

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#2 posted 06-21-2010 05:28 PM

do you have a link to this beginner option? I already have the rails and fence, here we pay 50% customs of total cost (including shipping)

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3039 days


#3 posted 06-21-2010 07:01 PM

Looks like a good idea

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View SKFrog16's profile

SKFrog16

661 posts in 2662 days


#4 posted 06-22-2010 12:32 AM

I know nothing of any beginners system, but here is the Incra website. http://www.incra.com/
Also, if you go to woodpeckers, http://www.woodpeck.com/
they have demo videos that would be of interest to you.

-- Methods are many,Principles are few.Methods change often,Principles never do.

View Howie's profile

Howie

2656 posts in 2385 days


#5 posted 06-22-2010 01:02 AM

I called it a beginners system because it’s the cheapest positioner incra sells. For lack of a better name it’s the black plastic one. I have one and it works very good, but I up graded to the 25” with the super fence.
Union label is correct..go to the sites and watch the vid. I believe WLCS also has a vid for the small one) Those vids really help when you are first learning to use one.

-- Life is good.

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#6 posted 06-22-2010 01:07 AM

Thanks howie! thats the incra original jog you are talking about… I have seen it, but I think it’s too small for a table saw, may it’s ok for a router only… I’m negociating how much incra stuff goes on one international package, it will be about 100+ USD of shipping :( and we pay about 4 ARS per Dolar…

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#7 posted 06-24-2010 06:40 PM

Already made my request to incra, I hope they ship on 2 or 3 days, and the 2 or 3 weeks of waiting… I bought an LS positioner, a V27 miter gauge, some rule and some miter channels, since I was paying a lot on shipping I HAD to make worth of it ;)

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#8 posted 07-05-2010 03:46 PM

incra stuff arrived to argentina… waiting for customs now… :D

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View PurpLev's profile

PurpLev

8523 posts in 3111 days


#9 posted 07-05-2010 03:58 PM

nice job on the model.

Which LS positioner did you get?

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#10 posted 07-05-2010 04:23 PM

I bought the small one incra 17” positioner only, just the positioner. also bought the v27 miter gauge, one rule ant miter channels, once i took the desition on the positioner, I bought averything I could to make the shipping worth…

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View PurpLev's profile

PurpLev

8523 posts in 3111 days


#11 posted 07-07-2010 04:27 AM

It’s a good system. the 17” is more suitable for router table, as it’s a bit short for TS – although you may find some workarounds to make it all work for you.

I noticed you used my model of the LS positioner in your SketchUp model – looks good. although usually for proper etiquette, it’s more appropriate to leave the component you download from 3Dwarehouse as a component, and not copy the geometry from it or explode the component. When you use someone elses component from 3Dwarehouse they are credited for it in your model, but if you explode that component and use their geometry, you get credited for it ;)

Enjoy the new toys.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#12 posted 07-07-2010 03:34 PM

Hi Purplev!

Thanks for your comments, I’m planning to “move” the positioner using the rails, like in the TS, to cope with the lenght problem. Hope it works.

About your design, really apreciate that you uploaded and shared it, It was easier for me to imagine the table and posible problems. I exploded it in order to make the rule move with the fence, just reagruping the objects, I didn’t know I was erasing credits by making that… I think the project should keep credits to objects even if I explode an make modifications. I’m sorry for that I didn’t know.

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#13 posted 07-07-2010 07:38 PM

Incra stuff just arrived… this things ara MASIVE!, can’t wait to arrive home…

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#14 posted 07-09-2010 11:30 AM

A photo of incra positioner, miter gauge, etc. together with my “table saw” and router, ar right the alumium profiles. I expect to transform this in something usefull in a month or so, wile puting some order in the garage…

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

View dedalo's profile

dedalo

173 posts in 2359 days


#15 posted 07-09-2010 11:46 AM

I disasembled the table saw this morning, my plan was to replace the table top (it is very bad quality), but the systema that moves the blade is attached to it, so the new table top will be on top of it, I will loose 1” of cutting deph, so my max will be little more than 2”. I’m a litle worried about flatness of the surface, I’m planning to use MDF with some hard melamine top on it…

-- http://carpinteriaenargentina.blogspot.com

showing 1 through 15 of 16 comments

Have your say...

You must be signed in to post the comments.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com