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Blog entry by dbhost posted 195 days ago 927 reads 1 time favorited 7 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I found out yet another reason to double and triple check the function of your dust collection… My table saw had gotten to the point where it was bogging down on the simplest / easiest of cuts, I needed to do something, well I have a blogger entry about the whole thing, if you are interested, check it out!http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com/2014/02/ryobi-bt3100-table-saw-cutting-out.html

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com



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hoosier0311

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#1 posted 195 days ago

My personal experiances with 2 1/2 dust ports are not good. I am currently converting the 2 1/2 on my table saw to 4” Just seems like the 2 1/2 opening is not enough to evacuate shavings.

-- I'm only deaf in one ear,,,,,I just can't hear out of the other one., Denny, Indiana implant, living in PA

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dbhost

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#2 posted 195 days ago

I figured as much… The belly pan does have a 4” port, I just didn’t want to use a 4” with an active 2.5” split off from it… I thought both would suffer, but I am going to get this mess straight and go back with 4” to the belly pan…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jim Bertelson

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#3 posted 195 days ago

There are issue with my contractor’s saw design, mainly the bulky motor hanging out the back. But it isn’t bathed in dust. I put the air to the motor just as a check, for the first time in over 20 years, and there was little dust there, as one might expect. I will solve the motor issue when it gets incorporated into the dust collection/outfeed table combo, because the issue with the motor was only backing up an outfeed table to it.

Each tool in the shop probably has vulnerabilities, and they are frequently brand specific. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like to keep changing tools even if I can afford it. There is a learning curve with every machine, and that curve includes a very long time frame with maintenance idiosyncrasies. Keeping your Ryobi has certain benefits that include learning it’s issues. I am sure even industrial class machines have their issues….....

A distinctly unrelated observation, or perhaps not so unrelated, about dust…........I have come to realize that my main computer, a Falcon NW Mach 5 maxed out beast, has a vulnerability. It draws air through a grid on the top of the case over the cooling radiator for the sealed liquid processor cooling system. That radiator does get clogged with dust over time. I now lug the beast down to the shop periodically, open it up, and clear everything with the air compressor blower. The fans run at a lower speed once cleaned, indicating better cooling effectiveness, since it is obvious that the machine monitors its processor temperature in particular.

Well, gotta get up and at ‘em…..........., worked late last night, and got up late. Fortunately, I am off for the weekend….....

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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dbhost

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#4 posted 195 days ago

You are dead right about the need for keeping dust, dog hair and what the heck is that out of computers… I have an old Athlon XP clone PC I built using an Antec Sonata quiet case and power supply probably 11 years ago now, It still runs great, but I have to clean it out every few months to keep the cat hair out of the heat sinks…

Yeah, I think my choking the dust port down as far as I did caused the problem… A contractor saw wouldn’t have this issue, but honestly, one of my biggest reasons for picking the Ryobi when so many perfoectly good Emmerson built Craftsman and Ridgid contractor saws with cast iron tops were so cheap was the riving knife on the Ryobi… After having a few nasty close calls with kickback cutting bevels on a non RK saw, I ruled them out quickly…

Honestly I like my Ryobi but it has foibles like everything else… This one just shocked me is all…

If I had the $$ resources to outfit my shop any way I would want, assuming I had the same shop space, i would probably replace the table saw with a Sawstop 3HP cabinet saw with the 36” fence as that has a riving knife, cast iron top, AND the finger saving blade brake, add a cast iron router wing to it, and quite possibly sell my 8 and 29 gallon air compressors, replace them with a 60 gallon that flows at least 8 SCFM. And lastly, most likely upgrade my HF dust collector for a decent cyclone. However I may change that tune once I get my DC system set back up correctly… I keep toying with the idea of a larger floor model jointer, but my little bench top unit works so well, and floor space is at a premium in my shop, so chances are that won’t happen…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jim Bertelson

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#5 posted 194 days ago

I have managed to solve my issues with kickback on the old Delta TS. I use finger boards whenever I can, and make sure every cut makes sense. Another safety item is the super sled. If I have a strange cut to do, I can almost always mount it on one sled or another. I dearly love the super sled…...it is large, versatile and makes for safe and accurate cuts, including some small rip jobs. If I were to buy another saw, I probably wouldn’t buy a Sawstop, at least not for the finger saving aspect, although it has a great reputation for being a darn good saw. I am trying to make all cuts on the TS’s without touching the workpiece. The only exceptions are large pieces of plywood where I am a couple of feet lateral to the blade.

My Rigid in La Conner is turning out to be an excellent choice, with riving knife of course, motor sealed in, reasonable dust control, and a very accurate fence. If your saw ever fails, be sure to look closely at the Rigid offerings:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-13-Amp-10-in-Professional-Table-Saw-R4512/202500206

I do need a sled there, but it is a little way down the list….......

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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dbhost

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#6 posted 194 days ago

Actually. I had 220 volt circuit pulled for a TS. If not Saw Stop… then maybe A Grizzly G0961

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jim Bertelson

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#7 posted 193 days ago

You know, I am in Grizzly territory down in La Conner. Their corporate headquarters and show room is 20 miles away. In La Conner, I have an inexpensive Grizzly band saw….......but I had a pile of gift cards for HD. So just trying to be reasonable, and knowing, everything had to be on wheels, the Rigid got the nod. Many of the power tools I have there I bought in the Grizzly show room. I will undoubtedly go with a Grizzly band saw for Anchorage. A much bigger one than I have in La Conner. But of course, La Conner is a much different, scaled down shop.

Well, have a good weekend. I am recovering, successfully, from Thursday, and looking forward to shop time tomorrow. I decided to make a jig today, and got all the parts ready. Hopefully, will get some of it done tomorrow.

Later…........

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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