Workshop Development #82: More cleanup, more drywall work. Fixing some mistakes, and discovering a HUGE mistake.

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Blog entry by dbhost posted 01-29-2014 01:23 AM 1446 reads 0 times favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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So I spent some more time cleaning up. Mostly putting things back that went into the house that should be in the shop. I also removed the shelf above the RO tank, patched the wall behind where the freezer is going, sanded, mudded some more, patched where the drywall anchors went and mudded. It is now in the waiting phase for drying… Why do these things take so stinking long?!

I think I found my problem with the miter saw cabinet, and it is a design flaw, and a bad one at that. I believe it is time to start a major redesign, including using a torsion box base, however even at that, I need to support some substantial weight over a large area, and unfortunately the surface it is sitting on (the garage floor) is stepped, and quite uneven.

I figure at least temporarily I need to create storage for the stuff that is being housed in the miter saw bench, such as routers, drills, and other handheld power tools. I have space above the mechanics tool box to mount a couple of shelves, and that is most likely where they will go.

The reason I am spending so much time working on these shop projects, such as custom cabinets etc… is so that I can learn my mistakes there, and learn to correct them, before I move on to inside the house…

The table saw and workbench are almost all cleared off. I need the wall above the RO tank to be completed, and that shelf done so that I can mount some open bins between the RO control unit, and the extension cord reel.

I also need to take some rechargable batteries to be recycled to Home Depot I am guessing…

It is at the same time satisfying, and frustrating to be so close to being done, yet so far away… But at least I can learn from my screw ups, and take on another challenge. I have to look at it like Thomas Edison did. I haven’t failed however many times, I have learned so many different ways NOT to make shop cabinets!

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#1 posted 01-29-2014 02:28 AM

Just as long as you learn. Behavioral definition of intelligence? One trial learning! LOL! Just make new mistakes. Re floor problems. You can purchase leg adapters from Rockler or what ever your favorite woodworking store might be. Heavy duty adjusters will allow you to adjust for leg and floor differences. Don’t do what I did. Attached them really well to the walls. LOL!

Now I have to change bench heights. To match my cabinet saw. The old height matched my old craftsman table saw.

good luck!

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#2 posted 01-29-2014 03:35 AM

Actually that is exactly what I want to do with the next version. Stiffen up the base and use leveling adjusters.

I am pretty sure I would have to adjust bench heights. I designed this bench so that if need be, I could take the saw off and use the space as continued outfeed for the table saw, which is a Ryobi BT3100 and somewhat tall…

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#3 posted 01-29-2014 02:42 PM

My pet peeve today is people who use acronyms with out spelling it out somewhere in the article.
In the woodworking circle RO is an acronym for Random Orbital (as in sander)

So I would suspect you have invented a Random Orbital Tank?? or could it be a Recycled Oil tank, or maybe Rotten Old-guy tank.

I will lose sleep over this you know …

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#4 posted 01-29-2014 02:58 PM

Sorry, RO as in Reverse Osmosis water purification system…

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#5 posted 01-29-2014 03:59 PM

Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

Preping and finishing your workshop is time well invested, for many years you will reap the rewards.

Work Safely and have Fun. – Grandpa Len.

-- Mother Nature should be proud of what you've done with her tree. - Len ...just north of a stone's throw from the oHIo, river that is, in So. Indiana.

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#6 posted 01-29-2014 04:07 PM

Thanks. Yeah I am not sure how I managed to flat out miss the studs with the shelf I isntalled, but I sure did! I mean just flat missed… Oh well. It will be well worth it when it is done.

And at least with the way it is going now, the whole shebang will be painted bright semi gloss white by the time this is all over, the ceiling too will be bright white flat. I should have MUCH greater visibility in the shop than previously. It will be painfully obvious to all these walls have been worked on though, everyone else in the neighborhood has bone white walls, that have gotten dingy and banged up over 30+ years…

I know I am going through painful amounts of detail on the process of getting this shop, and in turn the home it is attached to in proper shape, but I so so as a self check, and hopefully as inspiration to those that think they can’t do this. When you consider my physical shape not to mention finances, if I can do this, you should be able to as well!

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#7 posted 01-30-2014 03:00 AM

But, you found it and are taking corrective action. Everyday is a good day to learn

-- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design.

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#8 posted 01-30-2014 06:21 PM

RO water system?? Geez, I would of guessed that in about two months …

I really had to chuckle over your missed studs … As I was putting up a lumber rack in the new shop, I used a stud finder and located the stud … measured over 16 inches and marked the next stud and so on … I screwed a 2×4 to the wall only to have it pull loose … what the? ... well seems that a stud finder will also locate a vent pipe … DOH!!
I missed every stud by 4”.

White ceilings and walls is a good choice for light reflection. Mine is bright white ceiling and an egg shell white on the walls. Heck, I even used white pegboard on the cabinet doors and the wall mounted pegboard. Huge difference. And coupled with the skylights, my shop is as bright as Sunday morning all day, but I do turn on the lights after sundown.

To save a few bucks, look around construction sites, you would be amazed at how much good lumber the carpenters waste. I look through the scrap pile and harvest a lot of useable stuff. Watch out for nails! these guys wont take the time to pull anything. I have built my new assembly table, and lumber rack with wood salvaged at one site.

looking forward to seeing photo’s of your completed shop … yeah, right … they’re never done.

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