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Blog entry by dbhost posted 1144 days ago 2296 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I have had a bit of a problem with my home. A really minor thing, but… You see I have a concrete slab patio out the back door, and the house is slab on grade construction. So I don’t have a stoop for the back door per se. Just a threshold and then it drops down to the patio slab… Well I also have a storm door in place, that sticks out about 1.5”, with nothing to seal against… And during good weather, LOML likes to open the doors up and let the breeze blow in through the screens. Now I don’t know about you guys, but my cats could find their way out through the gap under the back screen / storm door, and far worse, the bayou critters could find their way in. I needed a gap filler / wooden stoop. Since it would be ground contact with the concrete, It was plenty obvious that it needed to be either cedar, or PT to resist rot. The original construction had a stack of 1×4 pine laminated to make this gap up, but it was always a bit short.

My solution was gobbling up space in my lumber racks anyway…

Out came a nice straight PT pine 4×4. I ran it across the jointer, and then through the planer to get the size down somewhat, but more importantly, to give me a good glue surface…

Once that was done, i cut 2 pieces to 42”, and then glued them together using Titebond III. Once that was dry, I used a scraper to clean off the squeeze out glue. I had some in clamp slippage that I sort of knew I was going to get (I didn’t use any cauls like I should have…) so through the planer it went again. Which was my original intent. Final milling was down to 3-3/8”” thick. Now to flip it, and rip it. I opted to use the table saw, which got a little scary as I was unable to keep the guard on the saw for these rips as the material was too thick. So some extremely careful ripping, through minimally reduced 4×4s with a 1.5 HP table saw with a 40T blade installed (I REALLY should have swapped to my ripping blade). But hey, it worked. After clipping it down to 5-3/8” (the height I needed, it was time for a test fit, sure enough it fits right in. Back to the shop to cut the thing to width and clip off any snipe, and a 38” wide block resulted. Now I am needing to prime, and paint this thing, and permanently install it. I am seriously considering taking my pressure washer to the concrete after scrubbing it down with some TSP, and then bonding the block down to the slab with Liquid Nails for Outdoor Projects (I have a few tubes left, and have gotten good results with it…).

I know, I know, a stupid project, but one that is making the house more usable for my wife, and that is really a good thing to aim for!

For those wondering, yes I DID run my DC, my air filter, AND I was wearing my respirator while in the shop machining this stuff…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com



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Jim Bertelson

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#1 posted 1144 days ago

Reminds me of my PT pine flower pot stands I made last year. They are out on the stone steps to the garden shed, and look exactly like the day I made them. I used BLO dipped drywall screws, Titebond III, and some old Olympic Oil Stain. They don’t receive much wear and tear, and get put in the shed for the winter. This year the pots have strawberries in them…............

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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dbhost

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#2 posted 1144 days ago

I remember those. You finished them just after I finished up my Cedar planter box. I never posted a project on it as I felt it was too rough. I am letting it naturally gray out in the yard, it is full of bluebonnets and is really taking on a rustic feel to it now…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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NBeener

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#3 posted 1144 days ago

Not a stupid project, at all.

One of the first that I posted—my “box step—” was built to decrease the 2-1/2 FOOT drop from OUR back stoop to the back yard.

I like the woodworking projects that simply present themselves :-)

-- -- Neil

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William

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#4 posted 1143 days ago

This is not at all a stupid project. We want you to be able to continue woodworking. In order to do that, you have to keep your LOML happy. I don’t know where you’re from, but around these parts it’s common knowledge, when Mama aint happy, aint nobody happy.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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William

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#5 posted 1143 days ago

I have a suggestion though. Your idea may work fine. However I done something similar for a friend’s mom’s house about twenty years ago and the fix is still looking like new.
First get cypress (cedar will work too, anything that’s naturally rot resistant). Work it down to the size you need. If you have to use glue to build up stock, just make sure the glue is weather proof. Glue it with liquid nails. I didn’t use the liquid nails, but that product wasn’t widely available when I done this repair.
Get a concret gun from Home Depot. I don’t know if that is the proper name for them. They are hung on the aisle with the electric staplers and such. It looks like an oversized bar. You put a concrete nail in it. Then you load it with what is essentially a blank .22 caliber gun load, hit the end to ignite the primer, and it shoots the nail through th wood and into the concrete. Of cours you have to buy the charge rounds and long enough nails for the job you’re doing. Make sure to get the galvanized concrete nails.
I know this seems like a lot, and is really not necessary if you don’t mind redoing it eventually, but this process will fix that repair for, well, twenty years I know. The only thing you may have to do is repaint it every ten or fifteen years.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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huntter2022

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#6 posted 1143 days ago

Project like this are great. and keeps mom happy .

-- David ; "BE SAFE BE HAPPY" Brockport , NY

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Jim Bertelson

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#7 posted 1143 days ago

Himmm…......shooting nails into concrete….........

I’d probably shoot one through my foot….........

..........they’d probably leave me there, and use me as a cheap captive door man….....you know, throw him some scraps every now and then….....hose him down from time to time….....

.....that would keep me out of Sherie’s way, make me do something useful…....make mom happy…...........(-:

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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dbhost

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#8 posted 1143 days ago

I will pass on the concrete nail job. Knowing my neighbors, they hear a .22 go off, they will call the cops… I would hate to explain that I am fixing my back stoop with gunpowder… I know the device you are talking about, they are made by Remmington. I have used them to nail footers down to concrete before…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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William

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#9 posted 1143 days ago

Call the cops?
I’m sorry. I forget sometimes that everywhere isn’t like it is around Mississippi. My neighbors would probably come check to see if we’re alright at my house if they went longer than a week without hearing a gunshot.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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dbhost

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#10 posted 1143 days ago

Oh, I’m in Texas, but I am in a suburban neighborhood…. The reason they would call the cops is because if anyone is doing shootnig around here, it’s either burglars being shot, or gators… Either one. And yes I have had a neighbor shoot a gator right behind my house (I am on a bayou). A 10 footer…. Don’t dare use a .22 on those… My preferred method is 12 ga with 00 steel shot.

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Jim Bertelson

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#11 posted 1143 days ago

The only problem here is…...if a shot is heard all the neighbors would show up with their moose and bear guns and a Bowie knife in their teeth.

I am not sure how the home burglars survive in this city. Three grizzlies in my mother-in-laws back yard a few days ago, got into the chicken coop, but the chickens were too fast for them apparently. So they ate the chicken feed.

I not sure how the homeless escape getting eaten by a grizzly or black bear….........

Probably because the homeless don’t smell too appetizing….......

I have a good friend (out to dinner last night with he and his wife), and he is a big time hunter. Works for Homeland security in EOD….....Explosives Ordinance Disposal…..he did that in the military and with police as well. “Hurt Locker” anyone?

He said last night, after hearing about my mother-in-law’s adventures, “If a grizzly attacks lie down and play dead and they will usually go away. But a black bear will just keep eating you.”

Yup….....ain’t mother nature great?

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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William

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#12 posted 1143 days ago

Jim.
That’s funny. I took a different view away from this sign.
We advise outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on their clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears that might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise.
We also advise anyone using the out-of-doors to carry “pepper spray” with him in case of an encounter with a bear.
Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces.
Black bear feces is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur.
Grizzly bear shit has bells in it and smells like pepper.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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#13 posted 1143 days ago

No contest, make noise….....that is very important…......

...but I suspect the sign was written by a novice….........

Besides noise….......

........carry a big gun…......

When you go berry picking up here, better carry a gun. The problem is that the bear doesn’t always play by our rules. It doesn’t make any difference which type of bear…......they are both way too dangerous.

Signs like that are written by people with no experience. Not even anecdotal. I have had encounters with blacks. Their power and speed make an alligator look incompetant. They will pursue you, outsmart you, can swim, and climb trees. Yikes. In the city limits of this town we have lethal bear attacks every year. Every year.

How did we get from making a step to the patio, to being eaten alive?

Change of pace….......

...beautiful day here in Alaska, clear blue sky, little wind to make the trees shimmer. About 68 deg F, no humidity, quiet….....paradise….....for a few weeks more.

Have a good one…........buddy….........

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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William

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#14 posted 1142 days ago

I’m sorry Jim. I was offering up some humor.
That sign has been floating around the internet for some times and is a joke. It has been debunked as photoshopped many times over. Whether it is or not, I don’t know, but I just thought it was funny in line with your previous post.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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Jim Bertelson

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#15 posted 1142 days ago

I just glanced at the top of the sign and thought it was serious….........my goof.

Yes, I have seen that before, and I chuckle every time. Yes, that sign was written by someone with experience. But actually, the noise makers do help, and so does the pepper spray. Runners and joggers are the ones that get into trouble here. They don’t make any noise, and are moving too fast to hear the noise from the bears before they are upon them. Normally people come upon bears, normally the bears don’t stalk you, although apparently black bears have been known to stalk people. The worst scenarios are getting between a sow bear and her cubs, and coming upon a bear who is eating on a kill.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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